Posted by: Puddy Dunne | April 24, 2013

29 Palms Survey (1994) Agenda 21 & Question 46

Sorry for the late response to Tim White and Jersey Girl in regards to Question 46. Too busy trying to ward off the provocateurs. Two computers later and back to emails again we have the Twenty-Nine Palms Survey from May 1994. A UN NATO litmus test. A possible Marine Corp. officer search or Navy Seal recruitment questionnaire.

Though prior to false flag Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing in downtown Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, it was distributed after the Waco Massacre and Ruby Ridge women and children killing spree by FBI, ATF and components of Southern Poverty.

Since the League of Nations and the Rockefeller Plan, the documents we have seen are still being touted as fabrications.  The Octopus of Agenda 21 and the Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars demand research. Another offering from the committee of extraordinary gentlemen. A Quincunx for your consideration.

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale,
transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day
amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over the local
authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to
turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement:

I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of
firearms banned by the U.S. government.
( )  ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

Twenty-Nine Palms Survey:
What Really Motivated Its Author?
by John F.McManus (from The New American)

[Sidebar to Cover Story “I am Not a UN Soldier”
by William Norma Grigg]
TNA / October 2, 1995 (p. 6)

Reposted from Jews For The Preservation OF Firearm Ownership http://jpfo.org/articles-assd/29palms-mcmanus.htm

Veteran readers of THE NEW AMERICAN are vibrantly aware of the May 10, 1994 “Combat Arms Survey” administered to 300 active-duty Marines at the USMC’s Air-Ground Combat Center, Twenty-Nine Palms, California. Among its 46 questions, the Marines were asked if they would be willing to swear to a United Nations code of conduct and if they would fire on Americans who refused to turn over their privately owned weapons to the government. Other questions sought their approval or disapproval about their involvement in an assortment of operations far removed from proper military assignments, some of which would even place them under formal UN command.

One of the Marines who participated in this exercise became so disturbed by the questions that he obtained an extra copy and sent it to THE NEW AMERICAN. No sooner had our published report about this survey reached readers than several congressmen fired off inquiries to the Marine Corps and Navy. Spokesmen for both branches of the service issued statements claiming there was really nothing to be concerned about, that the survey was merely part of its author’s research for a master’s degree thesis.

But that explanation neatly sidesteps a far more important consideration: The aura of official acceptance of these subversive attitudes would certainly lead some of the Marines toward believing that they should hold them as well. It is our contention that no one wearing a uniform of the U.S. Armed Forces should ever allow troops under his command to be subjected to such totally unconstitutional thinking.

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Author’s Defense

We have talked at length with the author of this survey, Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham, and about his motivation in creating it. He provided us with a copy of the 197-page thesis he wrote after analyzing the responses given by the Marines. His thesis helped him to earn a Master of Science degree in the area of manpower, personnel, and training analysis from the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.

Anxious to defend himself from charges he is pro-UN, Cunningham repeatedly contended in his interview with THE NEW AMERICAN that he is no enemy of America and no participant in any plan to demoralize U.S. troops. He maintained emphatically that he wanted only to confirm and then pass on to higher authorities his fears about “the lack of knowledge among the soldiers about the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and their heritage as Americans.” He added: “I’m a life member of the National Rifle Association, an ardent constitutionalist, and I’m even disappointed with the NRA spokesmen who don’t do a very good job defending their position.”

To each of the questions or scenarios presented in the Cunningham survey, the Marines were asked if they strongly disagree, disagree, agree, strongly agree, or have no opinion. The first part of the survey dealt with non-traditional missions (termed “operations other than war” by Cunningham) under the command and control of U.S. military personnel, first inside the United States, and then outside the United States. Additional questions dealt with those same type missions conducted outside the U.S. under United Nations command and control.

The Marines indicated overwhelming acquiescence to being assigned under U.S. control within the U.S. for such non-traditional missions as drug enforcement, disaster relief, environmental clean-up, substitute teaching in public schools, guarding prisons, national emergency policing, or assisting federal law enforcement officials. For example, one of the questions asked the Marines if they would be willing to be assigned to a “national emergency police force” within the U.S. under U.S. command. The survey showed that 6.0 percent strongly disagreed, 6.3 percent disagreed, 42.3 percent agreed, 43.0 percent strongly agreed, and 2.3 percent had no opinion.

“Do you realize,” Cunningham stated during our telephone interview, “that 85.3 percent agreed with assigning troops to a mission that violates the Posse Comitatus Act?” This Act states that “it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus [power of the county], or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except [when] authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress.”

Additional results published in Cunningham’s thesis demonstrate a high degree of willingness on the part of these U.S. troops to carry out non-traditional missions under U.S. command: 48 percent agreement for drug enforcement; 39 percent for disaster relief; 67 percent for peacekeeping; and 52 percent for humanitarian relief. However, when questions were asked about similar missions involving U.S. troops under UN command, the approval rate dropped off markedly: 17 percent for drug enforcement; 13 percent for disaster relief; 25 percent for peacekeeping; 21 percent for humanitarian relief; and only 11 percent for Korean or Vietnam police action.

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Firing on U.S. Citizens?

While all of the questions in this survey should have stimulated concern, the survey’s final question has generated an enormous amount of attention:

The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.

The survey results: 42.3 percent strongly disagreed with this statement; 19.3 percent disagreed; 18.6 percent agreed; 7.6 percent strongly agreed; and 12.0 percent had no opinion. In one of the footnotes appearing in his thesis, Cunningham quotes comments placed by some of the Marines next to their answers to this question: “What about the damn Second Amendment? … I feel this is a first in communism! … Read the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen.” “I would not even consider it. The reason we have guns is so that the people can overthrow the gov’t when or if the people think the gov’t is too powerful.” “Freedom to bear arms is our Second Amendment. If you take our Amendments away then you can take this job and stick it where the sun don’t shine! … It is a right to own firearms for defense (2nd Amendment); I would fight for that right!”

Based on the disagreement expressed by 61 percent of the Marines, Cunningham concluded that “a complete unit breakdown would occur in a unit tasked to execute this mission.”

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Cunningham’s Deficiencies

In his interview with THE NEW AMERICAN, Cunningham claimed to be appalled that so many Marines would be willing to serve in non-traditional roles that conflict with the purpose of our military or to serve under UN command. He even volunteered that he “didn’t agree personally with any portion of the survey” even though he is “its sole author, originator, and creator.” Yet the thesis he submitted gave no indication of any such sentiments. Just the opposite, in fact.

In his thesis, Cunningham states that “The legitimacy of operations other than war is rooted in the constitutional powers of the Executive,” and that such operations and the placement of “U.S. forces under operational control of United Nations personnel are legitimate.” [Emphasis added.] Not so, according to our reading of the Constitution and the thinking of those who wrote it. The military is not the President’s to use as he wishes; his designation as “Commander in Chief” is an occasional assignment of responsibility, not a wholesale grant of power.

Betraying a poor understanding of the proper role of the military, Cunningham claims: “But the Framers also granted the Executive the latitude to use the Federal troops under his command as a tool of diplomacy when he deemed it appropriate. This was the case in both Korea and Vietnam.” That kind of thinking has gotten this nation into undeclared wars, led to casualties in the hundreds of thousands, and entangled our nation ever more deeply in the United Nations and its subsidiary organizations.

Cunningham’s claims that he is a defender of the U.S. Constitution have to be questioned when he writes: “Future U.S. missions may require the inclusion of international soldiers in U.S. units and, in some cases, when national security interests dictate, the President of the United States may appoint a competent United Nations officer to exercise operational control over U.S. contingents.”

But what about the fact that most U.S. military personnel apparently don’t want to serve in “peacekeeping” missions? “Some may argue that the military need only incorporate the necessary indoctrination and training, “Cunningham notes in his thesis”. But doing so would require establishing formal training and indoctrination programs … thus, in effect, building a completely new program from the ground up. Another possibility may be more realistic. Realizing the conflict and incongruity peacekeeping represents in a combat organizational model, it may be necessary to bifurcate the military. Such a change could promote specialization and provide an opportunity to those who desire peacekeeping duty. Perhaps it is time to designate separate fighting forces and peacekeeping forces.”

Cunningham’s own survey results demonstrate that there is solid opposition to converting the U.S. military into an adjunct of a New World Army. Yet his outrageous suggestion provides the globalists with an opportunity for circumventing that opposition. If implemented, it would undoubtedly be, not an end in itself, but another ominous step toward the abandonment of the traditional role of the U.S. military. Yet there is good reason to believe that these subversive plans will never be accomplished — as the heroic stand of Army Specialist Michael New amply demonstrates.

COMBAT  ARMS   SURVEY & VIDEO    continued

This questionnaire is to gather data concerning the attitudes of combat trained personnel with regards to nontraditional missions. All of your responses are confidential. Write your answers directly on the questionnaire form. In Part II, place an “X” in the space provided for your response.

Part I. Demographics

1. What service are you in?

2. What is your pay grade? (e.g. E-7, O-7)

3. What is your MOS code and description?

4. What is your highest level of education in years?

5. How many months did you serve in Operation Desert Storm/Desert Shield?

6. How many months did you serve in Somalia?

7. What state or country did you primarily reside in during childhood?

Part II. Attitudes

Do you feel that U.S. Combat troops should be used within the United States for any of the following missions?

8. Drug enforcement
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

9. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

10. Security at national events (e.g. Olympic Games, Super Bowl)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

11. Environmental disaster clean-up
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

12. Substitute teachers in public schools
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

13. Community assistance programs (e.g. landscaping, environmental clean-up,
road repair, animal control)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

14. Federal and state prison guards
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

15. National emergency police force
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

16. Advisors to S.W.A.T. units, the FBI or the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Firearms (B.A.T.F.)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

17. Border patrol (e.g. prevention of illegal aliens into U.S. territory)

Do you feel that U.S. combat troops under U.S. command should be used in other countries for and of the following United Nations missions?

18. Drug enforcement
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

19. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

20. Environmental disaster clean-up
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

21. Peace keeping
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

22. Nation building (Reconstruct civil government, develop public school
system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

23. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing,
and clothing)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

Do you feel that U.S. combat troops should be used in other countries, under command of non-U.S. officers appointed by the United Nations for any of the following missions?

24. Drug enforcement
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

25. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

26. Environmental disaster clean-up
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

27. Peace keeping
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

28. Nation building (Reconstruct civil government, develop public school
system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

29. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing,
and clothing)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

30. Police action (e.g. Korea, Vietnam, but serving under non-U.S. officers)

( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

Consider the following statements:
31. The U.S. runs a field training exercise. U.N. combat troops should be
allowed to serve in U.S. combat units during these exercises under U.S.
command and control.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

32. The United Nations runs a field training exercise. U.S. combat troops
under U.S. command and control should serve in U.N. combat units during these
exercises.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

33. The United Nations runs a field training exercise. U.S. combat troops
should serve under U.N. command and control in U.N. during these exercises.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

34. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N. missions as long as the U.S.
has full command and control.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

35. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N. missions under United
Nations command and control.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

36. U.S. combat troops should be commanded by U.N. officers and non-
commissioned (NCOs) at battalion and company levels while performing U.N.
missions.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

37. It would make no difference to me to have U.N. soldiers as members of my
team. (e.g. fire team, squad, platoon)
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

38. It would make no difference to me to take orders from a U.N. company
commander.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

39. I feel the President of the United States has the authority to pass his
responsibilities as Commander-in-Chief to the U.N. Secretary General.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

40. I feel there is no conflict between my oath of office and serving as a
U.N. soldier.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

41. I feel my unit’s combat effectiveness would not be affected by performing
humanitarian missions for the United Nations.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

42. I feel a designated unit of U.S. combat soldiers should be permanently
assigned to the command and control of the United Nations.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

43. I would be willing to volunteer for assignment to a U.S. combat unit under
a U.N. commander.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

44. I would like U.N. member countries, including the U.S., to the U.N. all
the soldiers necessary to maintain world peace.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

45. I would swear to the following code:
“I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which
maintain world peace and every nation’s way of life. I am prepared to give my
life in their defense.”
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale,
transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day
amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over the local
authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to
turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement:

I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of
firearms banned by the U.S. government.
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No opinion

http://www.digivill.net/~iirg/JST.pdf

Why Michael New Was Right?

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Responses

  1. My gun says “NO OPINION”

  2. Rattling my brain as usual, thanks Puddy, great work.. Few too many drinks here so i’ll save comments. hehe
    Cant wait to hear Rouge rip this one up… lol

    • I wrote an OP-ED on PDA’s (private defense agencies) We have witnessed the transition of NATO-GLADIO to a PDA over the last fifty years.

      Blackwater, Xe and now Academi-wackenhut are just archetype to give us a point of view on PDA’s. A deflection of the greater Corpo-State Profiteers and the foreign legions being formed through a series of economic driven sanctions and triad false flags. The Milosevic scam was where I started. Bosnia through Syria all have the fingerprints.

      After Boston, you can now see the gifted recruits selected to the internal covert op-MISO events here in the US. Nothing new for other countries through examples such as the Contras or Chenen IIPB.

      I have begun to have doubts regarding the Chinooking of the Seals in that missile attack. It may have not been a case of cleaning up loose ends but an opportunity to detach another elite SOG to the CIA’s Special Activities Group. Eric Prince is likely completely Al-CIAda, working out of terrorist central in Saudi Arabia and UAE.

  3. “In his thesis, Cunningham states that “The legitimacy of operations other than war is rooted in the constitutional powers of the Executive,” and that such operations and the placement of “U.S. forces under operational control of United Nations personnel are legitimate.”

    Divided by:

    “He maintained emphatically that he wanted only to confirm and then pass on to higher authorities his fears about “the lack of knowledge among the soldiers about the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and their heritage as Americans.”

    = [Equals]: Bullshit.

    “The legitimacy of operations other than war is rooted in the constitutional powers of the Executive” This isn’t even close to grasping the Constitution.

    According to the Constitution there isn’t supposed to be a standing military other than a Navy. Land forces were meant to be commissioned for specific duties and these commissions were to be limited to two years, with firm sunset clauses. And all of this was by Congressional leadership and oversight; even calling the president to duty as “Commander in Chief”.

    The president has zero ‘war powers’ under the Constitution, aside from acting as commander in chief – AFTER a FORMAL Declaration of War, by the Congress.

    I don’t think there is a single modern general officer in the US military who has the slightest understanding of the Constitution. If there were they would quit under loud protest. Regardless of rhetoric to the contrary, actions show that the military regards the Constitution a “quaint and outdated historical curiosity” – just like the majority of political DC, and certainly the majority of idiot TVZombies in the theme park of delusions called Amerika.

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    • the Navy is not subject to USC Title 10 Posse Comitatus prohibitions against using federal military forces for domestic law enforcement. This includes the US Marine Corps.

      The 300 surveys went out to predominately Naval and marines.

      You can see the numerous EO’s and follow the Patriot Act through NDAA and see the illegally crafted opinion being crafted into vagueness of the war powers and the WOT. There is no distinction.

      In the old days they used to just lie about it. Now they want it in the conscience of every plebe, that enemy combatants are merely dissenters to diversion or breech of the constitution. Period!!

      They could care less about rewriting the document, adding or subtracting. Only multiplying opinion and dividing the country.

      • “the Navy is not subject to USC Title 10 Posse Comitatus prohibitions against using federal military forces for domestic law enforcement. This includes the US Marine Corps.”

        As true as this may be, ‘USC Title 10 Posse Comitatus’ is not part of the Constitution, it is part of statutory code. Plus the Military Commissions Act effectively erased Posse Comitatus from the legal structure of the Homeland Security State.

        The real fact of the matter is that the US, as a constitutional republic ended at Fort Sumter – Lincoln may have “saved the Union’ but he lost the Republic in the deal.

        But of course the real issue goes farther back than that, to Philadelphia and the Constitutional Convention, a coup by the Federalists, and Hamilton very particularly. What mattered to the Federalists was not the form of government that the convention would establish; only that it would have the central powers.

        As Hamilton said in private correspondence after the Constitution was ratified, “it is those who interpret the law that actually make the law.” — a rather Stalinesque analogy of “Those who count the votes are more important than those who vote” [paraphrasing of both ‘quotes’ mine]..

        So this issue as always boils down to Natural Rights – not those supposedly “protected” by a ‘government’. As we should all be perfectly cognizant of: Government is a Racket.

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  4. Excellent points made above, Rogue1.

    I ask — do Predators, Psychopaths, Criminals, and All of Their Ilk desire that their future victims to be able to defend themselves in any way? A flat “NO!” would be the correct answer.

    Therefore — all who fall into the “class” and subset of potential “victims” must do all in their power to “protect themselves, their families, and their freedoms” from those whom would remove them by force, guile, legislative sleight-of-hand, or any other form of oppression of coercion.

    The flip side is — should the vast mass of non-predators “allow” any predators anything besides a “cage”?

    The jingo jungle juice we swill needs to be spit out, and logic and common sense used as a lance to pierce the fat bellies of the hogs that hunt us all.

    Things have become patently Obvious to those possessing logic, common sense, and the powers of observation (POB): That “leadership” has been co-opted on a world-wide scale, by a mafia of psychopathic financiers, warhawks, greed mongers, zealots, and actors. The MSM magnifies this “stage” into the media circus we see. That which is rotten to the core are the “systems” of control layered upon the human populace. The “leaders” and all of their assistants must be cleansed away. Only then, can people shine like they were intended to do.

  5. AGENTS OF “CHANGE” continue to Operate in our midst. At all levels of America, and countries ’round the world, we see them operating in the dark when they must, and in broad daylight as it suits them.

    Absolute Arrogance, in-their-twisted-minds, gives them the power to author legislative changes against the interests of the masses.

    Simple Need to protect oneself and one’s family (an unalienable “Right” not-to-be-infringed), is the letter-of-humanity’s-Law which provides the masses the Power to author their own individual and collective means of preserving their existence.

    Politicians need paper & pen, and the People’s “permission” for anything they might do. Remember that! This lesson started in kindergarden, when bullies became Obvious. Bullies must be dealt with. First, perhaps ignored, ultimately, confronted with an ultimatum…

    “Obama Signs Firearm And Ammo Killswitch”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2013/04/obama-signs-firearm-and-ammo-killswitch-2456326.html

    ” President Obama has side-stepped Congress by implementing portions of the UN Small Arms Trade Treaty through an executive order which can be used to ban the import of all firearms, ammunition and related supplies and accessories.

    While patriots across the nation rejoiced when the US congress rejected flat on its face an attempt to force the United States into the UN Small Arms Treaty just weeks later a more sinister ulterior motive has been revealed.

    Today, President Obama by passed congress and signed an executive which gives the federal government a power to completely ban the importation of guns, ammunition and even parts and accessories related to firearms”.

  6. BANANA PEAL REPUBLIC

    I think that most of the postmodern readership slip on the banana peal of process conditioning when reading the rhetoric of “western thought” from Plato to Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays and beyond. The modern reader has their equilibrium flipped upside-down and backward; thus they mistake ‘Design’ for ‘Diagnosis’. They read Plato as if he is giving a ‘diagnosis’ of the human condition rather than promoting his ‘vision’ of synthesizing the human condition according to his tastes.

    This is so for the works of Bernays and Lippmann as well. Such as their work, and now all of the blather that is emitted by the “think tanks ‘, masquerading as Diagnosis.

    It is my assertion that Plato’s ‘Allegory of the Cave’, was not a true diagnosis of the state of human senses at the moment – but a clever scheme for manipulating human societies by the very Projection of the Images he describes in his famous allegory.

    I know not how many here have actually read Plato’s REPUBLIC – but I will assert here again, as I did quite some time ago on another thread on this blog; that Plato’s Republic is very much an ancient form of Huxley’s BRAVE NEW WORLD. That the US is in fact a manifestation of that type of “republic” that is driven by a technocratic elite, envisioned by Plato as “philosopher kings” – and further that it is the Projection of Imagery [Television/Film] that is the direct analog of the ‘Cave’ scenario.

    “Responsible men’ make decisions and had to be protected from the ‘bewildered herd’ — the public.”~ Walter Lippmann

    Recall that Lippmann and Bernays were two of the ‘experts’ called upon by the Wilson Regime to run the propaganda machinery that would manipulate the US public into going to war in Europe [WWI] and “Making the World Safe for Democracy”…

    I think if one deeply analysis current civics, both the terms. “Democracy” and “Republic” are grossly abused and stained by the use of Newspeak. And this reverse psychological rhetoric can be traced back to the very beginnings of “western thought”.
    In a very real sense, we are standing still philosophically, although our quest for fire has been fulfilled beyond humanity’s wildest dreams, the race seems essentially “Two Year Old’s with Long Legs,” as the late Allen Watts used to say.

    We might be flabbergasted at those who poured into the streets of Boston to celebrate and chant “USA!USA!” cheering the oppressive army of police as saviors, and may see them as misguided as the French who greeted the Nazi troops marching into Paris – the apparition is more common in history than we might wish to imagine.

    The depths of this pathology is far beyond my humble thinking for me to offer a solution; I am simply astonished.

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    • I think it falls under the heading of HOPE. Anyway your thoughts I grok.

      • Not to be too succinct, but Rogue1 eloquently summarizes “the problem” and elicits our collective astonishment at the acceptance of such banal evil balderdash. Puddy, yes we do grok the goop.

  7. AMERIKAN IDIOTS:

    • Awesome JG…absolutely nuts, but there it is.

      Hahahahaha…and uh, gawblesmurkah

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    • Stunning isn’t it. But Jay Leno can get the same without using actual words. It’s teaching COTO that the masses cannot run their lives and it almost works, from my view. We talk the game of Drones here, but does anybody doubt the dumbing effects of the committee cocktails?

      Lazy Minds, living life in images only – /\ These people were simply motivated by his face, nice voice and demeanor. I dont think many heard a word he said.

      Boomer points out the mouthpieces. How many of these pier walkers ever watch a congressional newspeaking engagement with the MSM? None. Those who do are the ones to be raptured into the order. The separations are far more visible these days and videos like these are extremely depressing.

  8. Reblogged this on One God News.

  9. Very depressing . The Boston lockdown and the reactions from the crowd showed us how easy the final takedown will be. They deserve what they get. The rest of us don’t.

    • I was hoping the “cheering” was another Crisis Actors propaganda piece. A JOKE if you will. All those cheering should be feeling the DT’s of being punch drunk on the power play put on by TPTB. A splitting headache and hangover is due them for their participation in the FF Martial Law charade. Fucking Idiots! Maybe that’s too strong for them to stomach. Sorry. fucking idiots…

  10. Shocking?

    Falsely Identified ‘Boston Bomber’ Found Dead In River
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-25/falsely-identified-boston-bombing-suspect-found-dead

    • How convenient. Coincidence? Not.

  11. NEED A JOB?

    http://www.albawaba.com/news/syria-rebels-europe-486924

    • CORRECTION:

      “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the ‘TV watcher’ to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money.” ~Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel, a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the French Rapid Action Force.

      This quote is often mistakenly attributed to Robin Cook – former British Foreign Secretary

      http://thetruthorthefight.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/robin-cook/

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  12. Pathos is alive and well throughout all of planet Earth – but in Amerika it has been scientifically perfected.

    Amerika is psychopathic perfection, it is ‘Manifest Destiny’ accomplished.

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  13. “The vision of our humanity that liberal imperialists entertain is one which constructs us as shrieking sacks of emotion. This is the elites’ anthropology, one that views us as bags of nerve and muscle: throbbing with outrage, contracting with every story of ‘incubator babies’, bulging up with animus at the arrest of Gay Girl in Damascus, recoiling at the sound of Viagra-fueled mass rape. From mass hysteria in twitter to hundreds of thousands signing an online Avaaz petition calling for bombing Libya in the name of human rights, we become nerves of mass reaction….We scream for action via ‘social media’, thumbs furiously in action on our ‘smart’ phones. ..Then again, our “action” merely consists of asking the supremely endowed military establishment to act in our name.”~Maximilian Forte

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  14. Interesting yet profoundly Off assertion. But then, you know that. Thanks for the twisted sister suss. It is by these things that we know we are light years in extension from such psychopathic ravings.

    Super Cool Heading Heads Up There from Puddy!

  15. What do you folk make of this one ?

    • The likelihood that the tale of ALLEY OOP is true is more likely.

      When the new iPad time machine app becomes available, you’ll see.

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      • I tend to agree HR, Interesting stuff tho, hence why I throw it out there. Everything at this stage is worth considering and/or destroying if you so desire : )

  16. Jay what does it say? I couldn’t watch it.. I get motion sickness ..I am dead serious ! lol Is it an illuminati numerology thing? If so, what’s the prediction?

    • Description :

      Published on Apr 4, 2013

      Nuclear Missile Warning New York – this is not a fake! This is a Warning Video of the coming nuclear destruction of the City of New York on 30th April 2013 in dam Walpurgis Night at 23:33 clock. The evidence for this is the Latitude coordinate of the destroyed World Trade Center 40° 42′ 42″ N = 40.711667 and means 4711 + 667 days — 4th July 2011 + 666 Days = 30th April 2013 … German Time + 667 days = 1th May 2013

      Please control my words in your own interest, and you will see that I’m not a liar. See the Coordination of the destroyed World Trade Center on the Geohack Diagram!

      http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohac

      40.711667 is the combination of 4711 + 667 day’s! This well-known number 4711 — the number of Cologne / Germany — was the zero point of arrival Time of the Antichrist 666 in our era, and means 4711 = 4.7.11 = 4th July 2011 — US INDEPENDENCE DAY in the year 2011. The reason why this number is in Cologne is not the Eau de Toilet — this is only a fake — it is the reason of the highest Church building on planet Earth with “Twin Tower” the Cologne Cathedral — Target number one of the living Person Antichrist!

      The World Trade Center North Tower with 417 Meters was for the numbers 4-7-1 you need for writing 4711. North Tower and South Tower of the World Trade Center are 417m + 415 m = 832 m and means 832 / 238 Uranium U238 nuclear material, by mirroring (832/238). The reason of 2 meters difference in High is the symbolic 4-1-7 for 4711 = 4.7.11 and 238 Uranium by adding the high of both Towers. By the way — the highest Building on planet Earth is the Burj Khalifa in Dubai, with a High of 830 meters — and means two times south Tower World Trade Center with 415 meters — second Impact symbol for second New York attack nuclear on 30th April 2013! The Burj Khalifa in Dubai is also in relation to the Person Antichrist — more information later on Twitter. The World Trade Center was a symbolic Building, and stands for Cologne Cathedral — highest Church Building with “Twin Towers”. American Airlines Flight 011, who crashed into the North Tower, stands for the arrival year of the Beast 666 — the Antichrist on 4th July 2011 (4.7.11 = 4711 symbolic AA011)

      The first May 1776 is the date when the German Founder of the Bavarian Illuminati Adam Weishaupt started his Calculation of this end Time scenario and created his Calendar of the Illuminati with the special month PHARAVARDIM from 21th March to 30th April!

      The 21th March is in German 21.03 and means 2013 — the only way to express 2013!

      On the One-Dollar-Bill is the Pyramid Capstone Step 13 for the Rothschilds and means 2013, by adding 666 days from the 4th July 2011 — arrival year of the living Person Antichrist!

    • More from another vid desc:

      Published on Mar 20, 2013

      911 Warning – this is not a fake! This is a Warning Video of the coming nuclear destruction of the City of New York on 30th April 2013 in dam Walpurgis Night at 23:33 clock. The evidence for this is the Latitude coordinate of the destroyed World Trade Center 40° 42′ 42″ N = 40.711667 and means 4711 + 667 days — 4th July 2011 + 666 Days = 30th April 2013 … German Time + 667 days = 1th May 2013

      Please control my words in your Interest, and you will see that I’m not a liar. See the Coordination of the destroyed World Trade Center on the Geohack Diagram!

      http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohac

      40.711667 is the combination of 4711 + 667 day’s! This well-known number 4711 — the number of Cologne / Germany — was the zero point of arrival Time of the Antichrist 666 in our era, and means 4711 = 4.7.11 = 4th July 2011 — US INDEPENDENCE DAY in the year 2011. The reason why this number is in Cologne is not the Eau de Toilet — this is only a fake — it is the reason of the highest Church building on planet Earth with “Twin Tower” the Cologne Cathedral — Target number one of the living Person Antichrist!

      The World Trade Center North Tower with 417 Meters was for the numbers 4-7-1 you need for writing 4711. North Tower and South Tower of the World Trade Center are 417m + 415 m = 832 m and means 832 / 238 Uranium U238 nuclear material, by mirroring (832/238). The reason of 2 meters difference in High is the symbolic 4-1-7 for 4711 = 4.7.11 and 238 Uranium by adding the high of both Towers. By the way — the highest Building on planet Earth is the Burj Khalifa in Dubai, with a High of 830 meters — and means two times south Tower World Trade Center with 415 meters — second Impact symbol for second New York attack nuclear on 30th April 2013! The Burj Khalifa in Dubai is also in relation to the Person Antichrist — more information later on Twitter. The World Trade Center was a symbolic Building, and stands for Cologne Cathedral — highest Church Building with “Twin Towers”. American Airlines Flight 011, who crashed into the North Tower, stands for the arrival year of the Beast 666 — the Antichrist on 4th July 2011 (4.7.11 = 4711 symbolic AA011)

      The first May 1776 is the date when the German Founder of the Bavarian Illuminati Adam Weishaupt started his Calculation of this end Time scenario and created his Calendar of the Illuminati with the special month PHARAVARDIM from 21th March to 30th April!

      The 21th March is in German 21.03 and means 2013 — the only way to express 2013!

      On the One-Dollar-Bill is the Pyramid Capstone Step 13 for the Rothschilds and means 2013, by adding 666 days from the 4th July 2011 — arrival year of the living Person Antichrist!

      Look when they founded the Satan’s Church in San Francisco — in dam Walpurgis Night on 30th April 1966 for the upcoming Scenario 30th April 2013 in New York City – nuclear!

      The Time of destruction is 23:33 because 2×333 = 666 — the number of the Beast!

      For this reason, the Bavarian Illuminati had built the Illuminati Tower in Germany: Olympic Tower Munich — East Coordinate: 11° 33′ 13″ = 11:33 min 2013 analogue 23:33 clock (2×333 = 666) — NEW YORK attack nuclear 30th APRIL 2013! The 13 at the end of the Coordination 11° 33′ 13″ is 13 seconds geographic, and stands for 13 = 2013.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiaturm

      Count from the US Independence Day 4th July 2011 plus 666 days, or 4.7.11 + 666 (4711)

      For all the Persons in the 500 Miles circle area of New York City — leave this danger Zone before 30th April 2013 — your Life is in danger! They will nuke New York with Submarine missiles in dam Walpurgis Night 30th April 2013! Executor is the Russian Navy in agreement with the shadow Government of the United States. Barrack Obama and Vladimir Putin are well informed of this act of Terror — both are serving SATAN!

      Please warn as many People as you can – and Twitter this important Video!

      Stay connected — explanations and preparations coming son — follow: twitter.com/cardinalgerman

      The last prophecy of St. Malachi in the final days on planet earth in Latin: „In persecutione extrema Sancta Romana Ecclesiae sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus, quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur et judex tremendus judicabit populum suum. Finis.”

  17. I liked this part best; “Finis.”

    But thanks for going to all of the trouble to get all that text Jay7.

    I will say when it comes to this concept of “The Anti-Christ”, “The Beast”, and the whole woowoo wango tango bango surrounding it…

    I’m like, you know….wow dood…like you know? Like…wow….and…

    You know…

    __Which is admittedly the banter chowder that my son at 15 would babble anytime he was trying to converse with someone. I sat and listened to him and another guy his age sit in my living room while I was in my studio…for TWO HOURS these guys talked like that…seriously…and somehow…I am reminded of that when I read monkey entrails spread out on holy tapestries like the holy rolly toilet roll of our “WARNING” that Big Bad Daddio is on his way…like Sandy Claws pissing on every fire hydrant from here to the golden dawn__melting them so they can’t be used to put out the fire that burns down the world.

    Frankly, if God is so stupid he can’t drop this monkeyboy in his tracks with a snap of his holy fingers, then he needs a new ID card that says Samael, and I mean a ‘picture ID’ this time so everybody isn’t wallering around on dusty floors licking dust mites and squawking hymns in bygone lingo from their twitching buttholes.

    Nutherwords I say Ol’Scratch is a scab offa sumbodies buttcheex annuthin more an ne’er the trains shall meet the meat cuzinstien it’s all ephemera from the bimborinas.

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    • ” I will say when it comes to this concept of “The Anti-Christ”, “The Beast”, and the whole woowoo wango tango bango surrounding it…

      I’m like, you know….wow dood…like you know? Like…wow….and…

      You know… ”

      You, make me laugh. : )

  18. DHS and FBI Warn of Terrorists with Cameras Following Boston Bombing
    Kurt Nimmo – Infowars.com – April 26, 2013

    “The terrorist attack, or staged terrorist attack, in Boston, like the 9/11 attack before it, will result in the continued destruction of our constitutionally guaranteed liberty. The police state, led by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, are already spearheading the effort.

    the DHS and FBI say “possible indicators” of terrorist activity include “[d]iscret use of cameras or video recorders, sketching, or note taking consistent with pre-operational surveillance.” Photography should be considered part of a “totality of behavioral indicators and other relevant circumstances” before “any law enforcement response or action,” according to the bulletin.

    In addition, the “suspicious purchases” of items such as “hydrogen peroxide, acetone, gasoline, propane, or fertilizer” should be considered suspect by law enforcement, Fire-EMS, private security personnel, and emergency managers and “forwarded to the appropriate fusion center and FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force for further action.”

    The Boston bombing will allow the FBI’s latest iteration of COINTELPRO – a surveillance and agent provocateur program that has operated uninterrupted for more than 40 years – to expand and flourish. The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are not primarily concerned with al-Qaeda or even homegrown supposed jihadi terrorism, but political activity that threatens the establishment and the global elite’s political status quo. The Tsarnaev brothers, who are obvious patsies, are being exploited in order to push police state propaganda.”

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-and-fbi-warn-of-terrorists-with-cameras-following-boston-bombing.html

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  19. The Boston Bombing Web of Lies

    By Julie Lévesque – Global Research, April 26, 2013

    Excerpt:
    Even former US Ambassador Craig Murray says the “Chechen Connexion” story is surreal:

    We are asked to believe that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was identified by the Russian government as an extremist Dagestani or Chechen Islamist terrorist, and they were so concerned about it that in late 2010 they asked the US government to take action. At that time, the US and Russia did not normally have a security cooperation relationship over the Caucasus, particularly following the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. For the Russians to ask the Americans for assistance, Tsarnaev must have been high on their list of worries.

    In early 2011 the FBI interview Tsarnaev and trawl his papers and computers but apparently – remarkably for somebody allegedly radicalised by internet – the habitually paranoid FBI find nothing of concern.

    So far, so weird. But now this gets utterly incredible. In 2012 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who is of such concern to Russian security, is able to fly to Russia and pass through the airport security checks of the world’s most thoroughly and brutally efficient security services without being picked up.

    He is then able to proceed to Dagestan – right at the heart of the world’s heaviest military occupation and the world’s most far reaching secret police surveillance – again without being intercepted, and he is able there to go through some form of terror training or further Islamist indoctrination. He then flies out again without any intervention by the Russian security services.

    That is the official story and I have no doubt it did not happen. I know Russia and I know the Russian security services. Whatever else they may be, they are extremely well-equipped, experienced and efficient and embedded into a social fabric accustomed to cooperation with their mastery.

    This scenario is simply impossible in the real world. (Craig Murray, The Boston Bombings and the FBI: “Official Tsarnaev Story Makes No Sense”, 21st Century Wire, April 22, 2013.)

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-boston-bombing-web-of-lies/5332981

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  20. “Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.”
    ~Wayne Madsen Report – November 18, 2005

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  21. It was really established in the early 1930’s by the Zionists who wanted Palestinians out of the territory. After the criminal British empire had their way with the Palestinians in their invasion, SIS and WZO began the campaign of creating these factions of terror in North Africa and ME. Those extraordinary gentlemen of the League of Nations (UN), jackals giving birth to demons.

    While Britain created the NAZI movement in the thirties , the WZO began to develop the diaspora programs. Underneath the Haganah, now Mossad, began the terror and fear campaigns to drive Jews to the territoy until they reached their goal of 33% demographically. These four Allyahs were greatly helped by antisemitism campaigns but terror played a role as admitted by BenGurion.

    It wasn’t until WWII when the Mossad was ready to infiltrate the Muslim Mujahideen who were ready to kill jews and that worked out quite well in ops such as the King David Hotel bombings and Lavon Affair. until it became clear the zionists were behind it. Major propaganda outlets were then bought and controlled by the Zionists and the monet, well you know where that came. They had control all the way up to the Soviet-Afghan war.

    There were plenty of Khazar zionists in the Mujahideen during that time as they had honed their craft from many slaughters and village burnings in Palestine. Communists became the greatest threat to Arab Muslims so as ordered by the globalist zionist committee the Soviets invaded with no intention of winning but the opportunity to get the US Intelligence and Mossad together to take full control of the Terror Pogroms.

    It’s all history from there. They infiltrated Turkey, Iran, Pakistan,Saudiland and all the way to India and Indonesia. The Eastern Jews have been on the committee payroll since Balfour. Gladio was instrumental in getting the regime change necessary to facilitate alqaeda.

    “The Base” is as advertised. CIA-MI6-MOSSAD created and global in membership. NOC lists in the thousands exist under Langley or something similar to the hotel california..

    ______

    I’ll look at those numbers a bit there Jay, thanks for that posting. I’d select New York for distruction because they want to rebuid the City, but the new Tower tells me no. I think LA is the spot and I’m sticking with it. East Central is prime for ground zero and I like the Denver Atlanta capital hubs for North American Union.

  22. Thank Puddy,
    I can remember where i read it but there was mention of the “devices” being pre-fitted inside the structural columns. Blah, don’t know, but the thought brings new revelation to 911 aye? Hmmm It would explain a helavalot and so cunning who would have thought? Maybe thinking inside the box is the way to go here. Musing.

    • I noticed that the helavalot is located just a block away from the camelot, which is much too far from a parking lot so I spent a lot of time going in circles trying to get a good shot. Then realized my camera battery was out of flux and needed charging – so I called the light brigade…but the sun had already set. Doris and Horus had a fit to be tie-died and Freddy Kruger had to stand in because Brad Pitt was committed to another film for the next three months.
      So I guess we could all be accused of wearing rose colored glasses on that topic…

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      • You didn’t mention fight club. 😛

        • The First Rule of Fight Club is You Don’t Talk About Fight Club.

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          • The first rule is therefor the only rule as you don’t talk about it.
            Well then fight club does not exist? : )

            • Sorry,

              National Security…

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    • IIBN Chechen Islamism were involved with bin-laden to acquire nuclear dirty technology as declassified by the idiots at CIA who ultimately were running the show in 1994 when the plan for the US WOT program was in full operation.

      This is where rubber meets road on Terror-Banking as the crux of the systemology. The triad, philosophy, physics and mathematics used consistently in each paradigm they create. The process of “chaos theory” study in these dynamic systems is the gravy of the benefit to the transformation of society.

      Regardless of the eugenics and death toll the agenda and outcomes for the survivors is far worse. It requires very little energy to initiate the (t)problem. The (a)psychological and biological aspects of the system require little more, yet the energy in force throughout the synthesis is substantial.

      The examples in physics prove the theory. Nuclear, Cosmic, Nature proves not only in mathematics but in truth from acorns to mighty oaks.

  23. Senator Rand Paul and other congressmen said they would have approved of armed drones going in as well to help take out the suspect.

    We have no idea yet whether or not the suspect is in fact guilty of terrorism in Boston.

    But it is important to remember – as Glenn Greenwald points out – the FBI has been “positive” about the guilt of numerous people who were totally innocent.

    The American people made a pact with the devil in the weeks and months following 9/11 when they bought the Bush-era argument that by surrendering liberty they could buy safety. But that type of pact has never enhanced either liberty or safety, and its fruits are always bitter.

    The pact with the devil occurred in the fall of 2001, when then President George W. Bush and Congress decided that they would use the machinery of the federal government to secure safety, rather than liberty.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-the-military-and-police-go-too-far-in-locking-down-boston-and-conducting-door-to-door-searches/5333126?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=did-the-military-and-police-go-too-far-in-locking-down-boston-and-conducting-door-to-door-searches

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  24. “Those who would trade safety for freedom deserve neither.”Thomas Jefferson

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”~Benjamin Franklin

    “Have you ever read The Protocols of Zion?”~Ms. Havoc Hazard

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  25. Go back a little to leap further. ~ John Clarke

    Yup, I can testify to the truth of that..

    I jumped, 9 ft 8 in -Standing Long Jump as a Junior in HS

    In the running Long Jump I hit, 23 ft 8 in…

    Momentum.

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  26. move’n move’n move’n
    though they’re disapproving
    keep them dogies move’n rawhide
    don’t try to understand them
    just rope and throw and brand’m
    soon we’ll be living high and wide…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABu42bnWBEU

    • 盟, Izdatyou??

      I juzgotsta be shurdatzyou…ifdat aintchu you dongitzta goo…

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      • itzame whozelse wooditbeez donkicongadrum?? benreadn sylentweponz poor sylentwhores yadig! buy choice andy CONcents burden beasty boyz boohoo calimaZOO dream’n featherfathers founded fort orange julius havn dothog wit mr mustard witda candlestickitup anitno shine sons oflib ertygurty slurpn nocoolaid bra nono uhuh slickity clickity splat!

        • “nocoolaid bra nono uhuh slickity clickity splat!”?

          Eye nozen yuppabout dat yoyoyo nosplat clickity herzumztu…
          taintevums sawdno whamdagdoo!! Butdem stealtherizens oooew
          oooew juslyk chainsmokin plutonius hoints onda razerslide ryde sezzah whooooweee!! nowderz tooammy!

          Sozeegozee…

        • The three black water / craft / undercover officers are the same guys interviewed as Sandy Hook local police. … cops at Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing…

          Check out ‘Beforeitsnews’ to see comparison photos.

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  27. Now it is out that the uncle of the Brothers Tsarnaev, Ruslan Tsarni was married to CIA man, Graham Fuller’s daughter.

    Recall that Tsarni claimed that these young men, his own nephews were, “Loosers”…even though the record shows they were very bright and scholarly, as far as their Profile reads.

    Turns out that there are a whole lot of Intel connections with this family…
    And a whole lot of suspicious goins-on surrounding the whole episode.

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  28. “Authorities say they plan to use a public safety exception to delay reading Tsarnaev his Miranda rights to remain silent and to have an attorney present.
    The decision to question the Boston Marathon bombing suspect without an attorney present has been criticized by some legal groups. In a statement, the Center for Constitutional Rights said, quote, “However horrific the crime, continuing to erode constitutional rights invites continued abuse by law enforcement, and walks us down a dangerous path that becomes nearly impossible to reverse.”~Goodman

    “It’s sort of odd that the debate is Lindsey Graham’s extremist theory [to hold Tsarnaev as an enemy combatant] or rushing to give President Obama credit for what ought to be just reflexive — if you arrest a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil of a crime before you imprison him, you actually charge him with a crime and give him the right to a lawyer,” Greenwald says. “The fact those are the two extremes being debated I think is illustrative of where we’ve come.” ~Glenn Greenwald
    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    I like Greenwald in many ways, but I think he is seeing modern history {WWII forward} with rose colored glasses to think that this fascist state came to being after 9/11. It began in 1947 with the passage of the National Security Act, and the iron curtain that was dropped over the people’s Right to Know.

    In my opinion it is the ‘Right to Know’ verses the ‘Need to Know’, that distinguishes between an authoritarian and a free state~ww

    http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/glenn-greenwald-on-boston-marathon-arrest-will-we-deny-constitutional-rights-in-the-name-of-fear/

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