Posted by: hybridrogue1 | January 18, 2013

The Clear and Present Danger

The Clear and Present Danger of the Repercussions of Sandy Hook

“List of executive actions Obama plans to take as part of anti-gun violence plan 16 Jan 2013 The following is a list, provided by the White House, of [23] executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence… Most interesting nuggets: 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks… 16. Clarify that the Affordable [sic] Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes… 17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers Fund ‘private security’ to explode the US police state. 19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.”
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Why “Executive Actions”? To rule by diktat, bypassing the Legislative and Judicial branches.
We face this tyranny armed at this point. Are we now to give up our arms in face of such prima facea despotism?

Those who say “yes” to this deserve the tyranny they receive. Either at the hands of the current regime, or some perchance ‘revolutionary’ regime that might replace it.

This is a dire moment in history for those who would be free, and also all of the “collateral damage” that would attend a civil war or revolution: all engineered by this tyrannical system.
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Sandy Hook False Flag Fallout Reaching Critical Mass by Lori Price, 17 Jan 2013 Today, we read that a Newtown fourth-grade girl asked to ‘ban semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines.’ Wow. This is one erudite eight- or nine-year-old! See: Newtown Schools Chief Tells Washington Hearing About Fateful Day 16 Jan 2013 Newtown schools Superintendent Janet Robinson on Wednesday told U.S. House Democratic leaders about the horrors of the Dec. 14 shooting and ended by sharing a fourth-grader’s letter to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi asking for a change in gun laws. “What everyone in Newtown wants is for you to ban semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines and to make everyone use guns safely,” Robinson said, reading from the letter. “This is important so that a person cannot shoot many people at once, and/or injure people badly. Semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines put lives at risk.” The Newtown fourth-grade girl asked that people opposed to gun control visit the town’s municipal offices, which are lined with boxes full of cards and letters, and to read one card from every box to realize just how many people want a change in gun laws. [Yes, she asked for people to visit the ‘town’s municipal offices.’ Now, how many *fourth-graders* do you know who pontificate about ‘large-capacity magazines’ and ‘municipal offices?’ This is obvious FAKERY.]

Obama turns doctors into gun control snitches running health care spy network 16 Jan 2013 As part of Obama’s 23 executive orders announced today, doctors will be transformed into gun control snitches who are ordered by Obama to ask patients about guns they might have at home. What this means is that doctor-patient confidentiality is now history. Even worse, doctors are being pressed to start interrogating patients about whether they own guns so that this information can be reported to the government. This is all being done under the cover of so-called “gun safety” but it’s really about turning doctors into devious government spies who conduct covert patient interrogations under the cover of providing them with health care. Once collected by the government, this information will then be used to seize guns from those individuals under some kind of mental health designation.

Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions in the State 15 Jan 2013 A Texas lawmaker says he plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Congress or imposed by Presidential order which would ban or restrict ownership of semi-automatic firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state, 1200 WOAI news reports. Republican Rep. Steve Toth says his measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state. “If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution,” Toth told 1200 WOAI’s Joe Pags Tuesday. He says his bill would make attempting to enforce a federal gun ban in Texas punishable by a *50,000 fine and up to five years in prison.

Oregon, Texas officials warn White House against enforcing new gun regulations 16 Jan 2013 State officials in Oregon and Texas are vowing to fight back against any attempt by the federal government to impose new gun control laws. The warnings come as President Obama on Wednesday unveiled a comprehensive plan to address gun violence, based on the recommendations from the Vice President Biden-led task force. The plan includes a call for legislation to ban assault weapons as well as a variety of executive actions. But in Oregon, Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller wrote a letter to Biden Monday saying his department will not enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional. Meanwhile, 1200 WOAI reports that in Texas, state Rep. Steve Toth (R) plans to introduce a bill that would make it illegal to enforce in the state any federal laws restricting semi-automatic firearms or the size of gun magazines.”



  1. Think it is fruitful to look into the history of this agenda to institute draconian gun control measures in Amerika. This article deals with that agenda from the time of the Obama regime:

    Top 10 Events that Prove Obama Planned Gun Control Long Before Newtown Tragedy


  2. This iooks like a timely and interesting post — along with the poignant header. I’m gonna have to come back and grok a bit later. Cheers! We need em.

  3. ask an armed man to give up his gun?
    not a job i’d ask for

  4. DHS Says Gun Owners Are Terrorists

    Kurt Nimmo
    January 17, 2013

    Following Obama’s choreographed attack on the Second Amendment earlier this week, the Department of Homeland Security announced it will join the administration, the Justice Department and the FBI in a renewed attack on firearms.
    . . . . .
    “The West Point report specifically targets the patriot movement and constitutionalists opposed to a federal government controlled by an international financial oligarchy. These violence-prone terrorists, the report states,

    …espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government. Extremists in the anti-federalist movement direct most their violence against the federal government and its proxies in law enforcement. (Emphasis added.)

    The last sentence in the above underscores the purpose of the report generated by the United States Military academy – demonizing libertarians, constitutionalists, and specifically advocates of the Second Amendment as violent terrorists who pose a direct threat to law enforcement.”


  5. “Conclusion: Law-abiding Gun Owners Are the Target, Not al Qaeda Terrorists

    It is now obvious what is going on in the wake of Sandy Hook – the establishment is finally pulling out the last remaining stops in its long envisioned disarmament of the American people in accord with its ultimate plan to usher in a one-world government and financial system. A well-armed and educated populace prevents the global elite from realizing this objective.

    In order to realize this required disarmament, supporters and defenders of not only the Second Amendment but the Constitution at large must be branded as renegade terrorists who threaten police. The cynical propaganda effort to pose law enforcement against a growing liberty movement is key to the elite’s effort to impose an authoritarian police state on America, a plan that will not be successful if the American people are allowed to possess firearms more potent than 22 caliber bolt-action rifles.”~Awlix Joans


  6. from wjat I gather, al Qaeda exists only in a computer program, sort of a vid game for spooks. There are no actual soldiers, only what they would do if there were actually terrorists.
    The movement is, though, quite real and has spent millions upon millions on firearms and ammunition that they’re just itchin to try out on zombies.
    Go ahead, pass your bills if it make you feel almighty. I wanna see hoow you plan to rnforce them. Not too many consider the government as anything more than target ptactice.
    Private sectors, kiss your families goodbye when you leave on this mission.
    Thet got to be shittin.
    Good thread rogue one.

    • Thanks Peter,

      We’ll see if the are bluffing. I don’t think they will have much luck with voluntary compliance. They really don’t want to make badges a liability, like a bullseye…


  7. “THEY” got to be shittin. i need to learn to type.

  8. Nbc is saying the four handguns were the killing weapons. REALLY? So who is lying? The goon ME or NBC? The story is unraveling faster than we can keep up with it!

    • So…hahaha…Carver is total bullshit?? They are falling back on this because the very first forensic report said only two handguns were found on Lanza…BUT inbetween we have Carver’s testimony…oy..

      Unraveling?? Lol it is imploding on itself. Hah…fuggin amazing.

      Deb, y’all should see what is developing on the T+S thread about gun rights…and pipe in for gooness sake…you too Peter, hard lines are being drawn.
      . . . . . . . .
      My latest:


      Have all of these “Truthers” suddenly forgotten the PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, the NDAA, that Torture is now an accepted “legal” method, that our rights have been under relentless attack from a despotic government that came boldly out of the closet in jackboots after 9/11?

      To posit that all of this has taken place because of “rogue elements” is asinine, absurd and utterly ludicrous. These are the CLEARLY actions of the entire system.

      This is all too utterly amazing to see here, I am totally bowled over by the absolute stupidity of some of the commentary developing on this blog.


  9. “Anderson Cooper was born on June 3, 1967,[3] in New York City, New York, the younger son of the writer Wyatt Emory Cooper and the artist, designer, writer, and heiress Gloria Vanderbilt. His maternal grandparents were millionaire equestrian Reginald Claypoole Vanderbilt and socialite Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, and his maternal great-great-great-grandfather was Cornelius Vanderbilt of the prominent Vanderbilt shipping and railroad fortune.[4]
    At the age of nine, he appeared on To Tell the Truth as an impostor.[8]…{grin}
    During college, Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency. Although he technically has no formal journalistic education, he opted to pursue a career in journalism rather than stay with the agency after school. [^ Bercovici, Jeff (2006-09-06). “Anderson Cooper’s CIA secret”. Radar. Retrieved 2007-06-30.]
    Cooper decided to enlist the help of a friend in making a fake press pass. At the time, Cooper was working as a fact checker for the small news agency Channel One.
    In 2000 he switched career paths, taking a job as the host of ABC’s reality show The Mole.”~wiki

    Ah…El Topo, “The Mole” – how apropos. If anyone knows what a ‘mole’ is in intelligence work, this is truly ironic.

    “The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
    – William Colby, former CIA director

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
    – William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)

    “Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State.”
    James Angleton, head of CIA counter intelligence from 1954-1974


  10. Look up: Joyce Riley/Mike Powers interview

    Mike Powers is a US Naval Law Enforcement Veteran and US Army Infantry/Reconnaissance Military Veteran. He seems to have lots of expertise when it comes to guns/weapons. Plus he seems very knowledgeable about police procedures. Also, either in this audio or one w/Joyce Riley, Mike Powers mentioned that he has participated in mass casualty/emergency drills (i.e. he knows what they’re about and knows them when he sees them!!)

    Mike basically states that he believes that this was a District Wide Disaster and Emergency Services Mass Casualty Incident Practice. He seems to think this was staged and explains why.

    Opens w/quote from CT Gov. Malloy saying something like “we were spoken to and told to prepare for something like this happening in our state

    -Mike Powers says inconsistencies don’t start w/Sandy Hook, but go back to Columbine, Sikh Temple, Giffords/Loughner, etc.


  11. Painter – JANUARY 17, 2013 – 5:24 PM

    Dear Craig,

    “A willingness to be open runs the risk of entertaining a really crazy idea which threatens the credibility of this site.

    With the Newtown massacre of children, I found this conspiracy theory to be an offensive outrage. This story was clearly being put out by people who paranoidly oppose gun safety laws and NRA supporters on steroids.

    In the light of more information, please rethink this artcle and consider withdrawing it.

    The truth surrounding 9/11 deserves our time and attention – but made-up conspiracy theories do not.”
    . . . . . . . . . . .

    Paul Zarembka – JANUARY 19, 2013 – 2:16 PM


    Your opposition to Painter reads, in part: ” ‘Gun safety laws’ really Painter is that what you call what they are trying to do to the second amendment?”

    I am wondering if you know something of the history of the inclusion of the “second amendment” into the U.S. Bill of Rights.

    You may want to check out “The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery” at . This article provides a history that its inclusion into the Constitution was designed to PUT DOWN revolts by slaves, specifically in the slave states.

    Always remember that very many of these white, male, property-owning “founders” were slave owners and they were conscious of their predicament. Slaves were unique “property” that could think, and do something unattractive (to our “founders”).

    More generally, the truth about Sandy Hook is whatever it is and truth does not, as such, have a political agenda. Tying Sandy Hook issues to the NRA (and similar agenda) would do a disservice to truth as it needs to be confronted. (I think Craig has avoided such an association, but I haven’t read this blog story all that carefully.)”

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    Paul Zarembka, to myself – JANUARY 19, 2013 – 3:19 PM

    “I hope your reference to anti-gun agenda does not include thinking that the 2nd Amendment was included to help citizens against their government. As I replied to Adam earlier today, it was included to ‘help’ citizens have militia in slave-owning states to put down slave revolts. The target was the ‘darkie’.”
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    A Reply from myself:

    WHAT?? Have all of these “Truthers” suddenly forgotten the PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, the NDAA, that Torture is now an accepted “legal” method, that our rights have been under relentless attack from a despotic government that came boldly out of the closet in jackboots after 9/11?

    To posit that all of this has taken place because of “rogue elements” is asinine, absurd and utterly ludicrous. These are the CLEARLY actions of the entire system.

    This is all too utterly amazing to see here, I am totally bowled over by the absolute stupidity of some of the commentary developing on this blog.

    [As yet unposted]


  12. [Another of my responses on Truth and Shadows >

    One might look into the causes of the insurrections that took place such as the Whiskey Rebellion, and remember that old adage that “The Winners Write History”, and read some of the conditions those who rebelled faced.

    Nevertheless it is not 1791 nor 1787, and although it is not even 1776, the analogy to that last date is the closest to our situation now, for the federal government no longer bases itself in nor acts in faith with the federal constitution. Becoming what both the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists claimed they were against; the tyranny of a despotic central government.

    Again. allow me to yank you all back into the reality of the present, which is defined by the PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, the NDAA, the fact that Torture is now an accepted “legal” method, the executive branch claimes the authority to assassinate any one anywhere on the planet, including American citizens both here and abroad; that our rights have been under relentless attack from a despotic government that came boldly out of the closet in jackboots after 9/11?

    And you really can imagine that there is no sinister intent behind this agenda to disarm the people of this country. The position is utterly preposterous. You and those who agree are actually claiming that they trust this tyrannical syndicate posing as “the government”.

    I suggest reading this argument by Jon Rappoport which is of a similar take as I give here, but with much more attention to the detail of the application of critical thinking to this issue.

    I think that is what is missing with those who are for these gun laws, already in effect by executive decree, a cold critical analysis untainted by emotions. I see plainly that Painter is coming from a place of fear and loathing. I see that he is willing to live on his knees and plead with authority to save him, but the authorities have not saved him from what has already happened despite the fact that these acts were already illegal. And anyone who thinks that law abiding citizens turning in their weapons will change the fact that the gangs and criminals will not is living in a dreamworld. So not only will violence not be halted by these futile measures, but honest citizens will be left defenseless against not only the criminal element, but by a totally corrupt and despotic government.

    Again, I am totally astonished by this foolishness.

    But the bottom line here is, it does not matter what any authority, nor any majority thinks, the right to the means for self defense go beyond the reach of any who would disparage those rights. Those who do not recognize the self evidence of this truth are enchanted with the Communitarian mythos of social engineering that will not change the relationship of man to his free will. They do not grasp that this is about nothing but power and who will wield that power. They have failed to learn the lessons of history, and are on the verge of reliving it in the manner that such things always come to pass – iron-fisted draconian rule, unbridled by law or sanity, for “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”


  13. Newtown, like Fairfield and Stamford, is part of the Diocese of Bridgeport, which got into legal trouble in 2001 due to lawsuits by 23 victims of pedophilia committed by priests. Bishop Edward Egan, then diocese head, was a protector of sexual offender priests, sending them to other areas when parental complaints reached the ears of the police.


  14. Story Number One:
    Original reports were that 3 guns were found at the scene of the Sandy Hook elementary school mass shotting in Newtown, Connecticut.


    Story Number Two:
    4 Handguns Found In School, AR-15 Left In Car According To Several Federal and CT. State Officials per NBC Pete Williams:

    At this point, the story was that the 4 handguns were found inside the school. During this juncture, they are still going with the part about how the Bushmaster was left in the trunk of the car the shooter drove there. The AR-15 Bushmaster being found in the trunk of the shooter’s car was the story for the first entire day and most of the day after if not 2 days after (I will have to confirm that, but I think it was 2 days after), before they decided to do something about the fact that their story wasn’t adding up. Especially when the medical examiner came out and said that all the victims suffered rifle wounds. This report of the 4 handguns and rifle being in the trunk of the car is confirmed by SEVERAL Connecticut State and Federal officials. Sounds like the right hand doesn’t know what the left it doing. This is what’s called not being able to get your story straight, and usually indicates deception being used.
    FILE – This March 27, 2006 file photo, shows a Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and ammunition on display at the Seattle Police headquarters in Seattle. The maker of the Bushmaster rapid-fire weapon found in Connecticut on Friday, Dec. 14, 2012, was put up for sale on Tuesday, Dec. 18, 2012, as investors soured on the gun business. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren, File)

    That is not a Bushmaster AR-15 in the video. As the footage of the officers retrieving the weapon from the trunk begins, the officer is cycling the slide on the SIDE of the firearm, and a large round falls out into the trunk. AR-15s are armed by pulling on the charging handle at the rear of the upper receiver. The round that falls out is clearly a shotgun shell. I don’t trust the government as far as I can throw it, but this footage is obviously not of an AR-15.
    The central problem here is that “federal authorities” who ID’d the handguns found at the scene reported two handguns found next to the shooter who was Id’d as Ryan Lanza – shot in the head with one of the pistols.
    There was no rifle at this scene, which clearly would have stood out and been next to or close by the body of the dead alleged shooter.

    It was only later that Ryan Lanza proposed that perhaps he was ID’d as the shooter because “Adam” had his [Ryan’s] ID on him. This was never cleared up by the authorities themselves.

    It is after this first original story came out that the coroner, Carver said unequivocally that all of the wounds of the victims were the result of “the long gun”. It was also reported that casings matching a .223 littered the areas where the shootings took place.
    One cannot possible mistake the casings of a large .223 with those of either handguns found on the dead “shooter”.

    The federal officials [FBI] have never retracted the forensic statements made originally. It has been the reporters and the state police who have continued to spin new stories almost daily…


  15. Yea Will, did you see my latest post about CNN using the St Rose preschool drill video which is 1.4 miles away from Sandy Hook Elementary and saying that was police storming the SH school?

    As for the pedophile priests, check out the video in comments under that same article with Monsignor Weiss, smiling away after his horrific day of dealing with parents of dead children. He looks every bit the pedophile that Uncle Gene the stuffed animal guy does.

    Btw, the Madsen article on that wouldn’t open for me.

    • Yea I saw that JG…

      More funny biz as well–I watched the vid on Willy Loman’s this morning of two long guns being found in the trunk of the Civic.. I saw with my own eyes; the guy pull out the shot gun, turn and hold it out to the techs to view it. He then turns back to the trunk still holding the shotgun, he then reaches in with his left hand and picks up a second long gun. I couldn’t tell what type, but a second rifle.

      Now going back to view it again just now, the very last seconds are clipped off, just as he turns back to the trunk the vid stops, and the part of him picking up the second gun is gone…WTF???

      I saw this myself this morning could this have happened?


  16. I watched that same video early afternoon and was wondering what scott was talking about because I didn’t see what he described about the second gun. You should mention that on his blog.

  17. Who or what is Akismet, and why are they clearing our comments before posting?

    Also, why the fuck are we seeing these short little snippets on Youtube that are clearly edited? Like the scene of the gun being pulled from the trunk of the Civic by helecopter video_why is it so quick? why have they edited out when he turns and picks up the second long gun? Why isn’t the whole sequence show…probably at least several more minutes at the trunk of the car while the guns are transferred to the techs???

    Why is everything being “held close to their chests” as Vance says?
    So they can control the narrative is why. So they can deny various pieces of evidence. So they can tell a fairytale and pass it off as true. It’s the same old bullshit song and dance…PERCEPTION MANIPULATION.


  18. We know the answer to those questions all too well Will.

    Max Igan thinks(and I concur) that they are throwing all this blatant bs from Sandy Hook right in our faces because they know that we “truthers” will suss out or try our damndest to suss out the facts of the case. Whereas the general public will just “grieve” for the slain children without ever noticing the mountain of inconsistencies and lack of any real evidence.

    The “truthers” will be painted as fringe nutcases by the msm(as we are) and in turn the the general public will eat all that up which will generate hatred amongst the groups that know the truth and those that don’t care to know it. Between that and the right to bear arms group and the anti gun group the country will be more than ripe for civil war. Max is coto thru and thru.

  19. Paul Joseph Watson – Prison – January 22, 2013

    2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.

    “I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

    It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

    In July 2012, the process by which this could take place was made clear in a leaked US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” (PDF) dating from 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations.

    On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.”

    Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement, Garrow’s claim is sure to stoke controversy given that Americans are seeing their gun rights eviscerated while the federal government itself stockpiles billions of bullets.


  20. And then we have the gatekeepers and controlled opposition:

    Introducing Cheri Speaks

    “Cheri works as a Marketing Director and Publicist for a variety of businesses across the country. By embracing and including today’s Social Media tools and the power of live events, she teaches companies the value of accessibility and human interaction to a “Brand” and how to capitalize on that in the current marketplace. As a business networker and promoter she is fearless and…” ..bla bla bla..
    . . . . . .

    A trained bot of the Public Relations Regime…yup a PR Gal and a “real go-getter” {grin} Certainly knows self promotion AKA self praise.

    But it is not her background but her foreground that hits the spot as a bot. Pop bullshit is what it is. After all she promotes herself as someone who can SELL anything. I’ve met a lot of PR clackers in my long life. Cheri spews the same typical blather whipped to lather.

    Let us see a post of real substance that Cheri refuses to post on her blog, by none other than our very own JG:

    aiting moderation.
    January 22, 2013

    So your real name is Cheri speak? How do we know that? Whatever your name is, it matters not. It just matters that you posted this ridiculous article debunking nothing of real substance.

    Perhaps you can answer some questions since you pretend to have all the answers? Why is there no video of the shooter crashing through the school window? In fact, how did that skinny kid crash through that super enforced glass window in the first place, carrying HOW MANY FIREARMS AND AMMO? You seriously believe that story? If you believe he shot his way in, why would two women charge a man armed to the teeth with guns blazing?. You buy that? Wow, I got some swampland you might like.

    Or the one about the school nurse who was reported as coming eye to eye with Adam and identifying him and then when interviewed by George Stephanopoulos(sp) says she hid behind the computer desk and only saw his feet? Which story is the correct one? If the latter is the case, than NO ONE could identify the shooter in the school. Speaking of that, why was Adam, the alleged shooter, found with his brother’s ID? A brother who hadn’t seen him in at least two years? In fact, there is no trace of Adam since 2009. What about the body they said they found in Ryan Lanza’s NJ apartment? How can they make a mistake like that? Certainly that had nothing to do with the “chaos of the event” at SH. That report too has fallen down the Memory Hole.

    Let’s skip to creepy Gene Rosen since you have so much sympathy for him. This liar who can’t keep his story straight and is seen over and over ad nauseum pretend crying and wailing. Why on earth would a bus driver stop at his driveway and drop off a group of “traumatized kids?” Who was the bus driver that would do such a thing? Who was the man with the gruff voice who comes and goes according to who Gene is telling his story to? Who was the mother with “the frozen face” that he speaks about over and over and over again whose child was on “the lsit”? How did he know which children died when “the list” hadn’t even come out yet?

    United Way’s SH page was one of those published before the event. Joe Lieberman has taken charge of the distribution of the over 8 mil they have collected to date. Speaking of collections. Why did no tears Robbie Parker solicit donations for the facebook donation page which his “friends” posted on December 14th the day after his daughter was “blown away.”.. What are they collecting for? Were they too poor to pay for her funeral? I think not ,living in Newtown. WHy are ANY of these people collecting donations? FOR WHAT? Why do we only see the same parents and family members over and over and none of the others? Why were none of the parents permitted to see their children’s bodies even those that specifically asked to see them ? Isn’t that sop that families need to ID their family members that have passed? Why were the bodies spirited away in the middle of the night? Why were the parents, except for the ones like Robbie Parker, the McDonnells and the Sotos who were all over tv, guarded by a cop at each of their doors and not permitted to speak to anyone? Do you find ANY Of this suspicious?

    And the coroner.. OH the coroner… so much wrong with his press conference.What was he talking about when he said “I hope it doesn’t crash on their heads” ? He said the shootings were done with the long weapon which was in the trunk of the car. ???????

    THere is SO much more to go over but I don’t have the time to do so here. I’ll close with, WHERE IS ANY EVIDENCE THAT A CRIME TOOK PLACE? Where are the videos, the still photos of the inside of the school, bodies being removed…only person we saw on a stretcher was being wheeled by one paramedic down the long winding road to the firehouse and another older looking woman being placed in a ambulance who looked just fine. We didn’t even see the rest of the children (600 of them) being moved to the firehouse or ANYWHERE.

    Ok Cheri, you got a LOT of debunking to do and evidence of a crime to produce. Otherwise, you will have proven yourself to be just another tv zombie that believes whatever the Anderson Cooper CIA types tell you to believe..
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    January 22, 2013

    Wait, I just read your bio which I should have done first. Well, that explains everything now doesn’t it? A “truther” YOU with that background? I think not.

    ….. …… ……

  21. haha…thanks Will…Now aren’t you anxious to see part deux of her debunking? I know I am !

    She is a really nasty, bitter woman who obviously has an axe to grind against poor Adam, and to a lesser extent you and El Senor and whoever the pedophile is at T&S.. Seriously? Honestly, she sounds a bit deranged to me.

  22. I was willing to consider a totally staged event for some time, but I was always dubious. But this rests on the meaning of “staged”. And that word can be qualified in many ways. So I will try to articulate what I would mean using the ‘generalization’ of the word. In this way I would say that there are certainly aspects of ‘staging’ – and the first aspect of this is the stage as ‘set’ by the MSM that sets the “official narrative”, which as we know is in fact a kaleidoscope of ever changing lights and shadows.

    As such I see this as ‘intent’, a stirring of cognizance and emotions, a spinning strategy of tension. Yes, as Senor pointed out, as aspect of the Hegelian Dialectical process. So again I would mention the process as Design masquerading as Diagnosis. The presentation is portrayed by the Public Relations Regime as “investigative reporting” – but is in fact a working script pre-established. Those behind the PR regime already know what actually happened – they planned and executed the ‘event’.

    This was designed to go viral, counting on the MO of “conspiracy theorists” it has been a trap set and prodded by counter intel which promotes the weaker, ‘far out’ aspects, such as the Crisis Actors scenario, the Parker family anomalies, etc. Bring on the clowns; Gene Rosen, with his ever changing story. Is he some neurotic seeking public fame? Is he a plant of the designers. All of this falls into Wonderland at some point.

    I still think the bottom line is the agenda to attack the 2nd Amendment. Not only to push ‘gun Control’ but to push the buttons of the gun owners, and in dialectics to push the buttons of those who are totally against guns. The synthesis I see developing from this is a ‘civil war’, now rhetorical – but a situation that could turn Hot__Go Live.

    As usual the agenda target is FULL SPECTRUM DOMINANCE. This target will not be possible without first disarming Amerika.


    As I posited before, they WANT this confusion, it causes divisions…it is part of the technique to push forward an agenda to a confused and head-spun population.

    We are here today under the yoke of an ever tightening grip of a totalitarian police state. And now there are these moronic arguments made against the Constitution – which in fact is the ONLY instrument that grants legitimate authority to any in the federal government. It isn’t only the right to bear arms that is under attack, it is all of our rights to liberty.

    It has been pointed out by those who understand the architecture of political power that the Right and the Left, now the Neocons and the Neoliberals are the pincers of the Hegelian dialectic cycle that drives the nation and the world to the Total State, Hegel’s dream of the nightmare of “the State as God”. We stand or kneel at this threshold now, this very day.

    For myself I intend to stand defiant, and I pity the conscience of those who will in their turn kneel to this tyranny.~[from bits at Truth and Shadows posted around January 15 through 18]
    . . . . .

    Max Igan has hit the nail square on the head. This has been my bottom line analysis all along, that all of the weird anomalies presented were put there on purpose…that ol’ stategy of tension.

    This is an important video that should go viral….


  23. I am dealing with a guy named Hufferd on the other blog,
    He just left this comment/question tonight:

    ..”if it was a set-up…, why wouldn’t the perpetrators have planted an at least consistent story from the beginning? It would have left less room for speculation and doubt that way.”
    . . . . .
    My Reply:

    ‘I have just explained that again in the post above this one. That was the WHOLE POINT of Sandy Hook: to create the raging speculation.’

    . . . . . .

    And I had posted what is above there as he had posted this question. So he hasn’t read the longer post.
    It will be interesting to see if he can grasp this or not. He hasn’t understood some pretty elementary things so far.

    That official story provides absolutely no proofs, relying totally on the word of authorities, compounded by the fact that the official story simply does not add up, is a proof in itself that something is being hidden. And it is the unwarranted secrecy of the state that is the problem, with not only this case but in that it is the MO of the state, and that MO is that of a despotic “government” and this is what is known as circumstantial evidence…

    Individuals have faced life sentences on circumstantial evidence.
    There is enough circumstantial evidence in this case to warrant an investigation. That investigation will not be forthcoming from the courts, the courts are in the same racket as the rest of the corrupt and despotic state.

    We the people are left on our own to figure this out for ourselves. As far as I am concerned all the hallmarks of an act of state are glaring in this instance.

    This is from a perspective taking in the whole picture, not attempting to place Sandy Hook in a vacuum, as if it were some isolated event on another planet. it happened in the present milieu – THIS IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IS SO EVIDENT – it is a totalitarian state with an agenda to crush liberty once and for all with a full court press based on the pretext of Sandy Hook.

    It is so obvious I am aghast that it even needs to be articulated to a sane and aware human being.


  24. I will also address this point from Mr Hufferd:
    “I think there are MUCH better candidates among shock events over the past several years”
    . . . . .
    Trauma Induction Via Perception Manipulation

    First and foremost the Sandy Hook event, involving the murders of so many very young and innocent children is extremely shocking, a very traumatic event, especially in the manner that the TV audience experienced it.

    It is not a matter of “stock events”, it is a matter of TIMING, and reading the mood of a people who are being steadily ratcheted up in an ongoing strategy of tension, both with incomprehensible incidents as a ongoing narrative, but personal stresses due to the collapsing economy and dealing with austerity, and the insecurity of how much worse it might get if one is just making it as it already is. There is now a sense of ensuing desperation for many, and many others see it just around the corner for themselves.

    All of This Combined Created a Tipping Point

    It is obvious that this was an emotional tipping point for the automaton TV watchers, and coming on top of all that has led up to it the event tipped the TV people over the edge of reason into a state of hysteria – the use of propagating the “conspiracy theories” by people like Anderson Cooper is what brought this full on rage.

    This is why we must recognize that the whole point of the operation was to create a hysteria that the manipulators can take advantage of while the bulk of the people are hallucinating mad. It is a mass ritual event orchestrated by the hypnotic power of television. The targets for this rage are obvious, those who have broken the trance and recognize what is happening. And they are “defined” in the West Point paper as the “Domestic Enemy”.

    This script, this playbook is simply crystal clear if one connects all of these dots. In times like these it is dangerous to be aware. In times like these it is more dangerous to be unaware.
    These are simply dangerous times – it is a clear and present danger, the danger of the final onset of full draconian police state measures.

    If you aren’t ready to face this head-on, you will be blindsided, and won’t know what hit you.


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