Posted by: dawnatilla | January 16, 2013

Gun Rights saved by Obamacare…?

NOTICED THIS  ..@Idylwyld Group

** Noticed this, in

** response to comment Above
” maybe he didnt ascend cause we still need a bit of help. Crowley and his minions are frothing at the mouth over the second amendment
Joey – January 13, 2013 at 7:40 pm”

* Article *

** Unbelievable! Secret Provision Buried In Obamacare Forbids Any Executive Order To Regulate Guns And Ammo – Saturday, January 12, 2013 21:11**

[Ed. Note: Who would have dreamed Libertarians would ever be in a position to praise any aspect of Obamacare? Well, thanks to a provision by Harry Reid buried in Obamacare, civil war caused by a gun grabbing executive order may have been averted.]

by Rick Ungar, Forbes:

In a shot heard ’round the blogosphere, Vice President Joe Biden’s suggestion that the administration might bypass Congressional participation to regulate guns in favor of using the executive order produced the inevitable choirs of “I told ya so” as Biden’s sound bite appeared to provide the proof that Obama was, indeed, coming for your guns.

But this time, the gun advocates were ready with more than just angry recriminations.

Acting with an assist from CNN, right-wing bloggers and gun advocates in the know, let loose with a tidbit of information they have, no doubt, been long chomping at the bit to unleash—the revelation that there is already a law on the books that would prevent the government from making good on Biden’s tantalizing suggestion, a law that would actually prevent the government from collecting data on firearm ownership and more.

And what might that law be? Obamacare.


Gun Advocates Celebrate ‘Secret’ Obamacare Provision Forbidding Exec Order To Regulate Guns And Ammo

** Obamacare.

That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal….

As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of the Affordable Care Act, the Majority Leader is said to have been concerned that the NRA planned to take an active position against the passage of ObamaCare and decided, no doubt with the permission of Reid’s friend, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre, to head the problem off at the pass by putting language in the bill that would mollify the gun lobby.

Furthermore, there was concern that a conspiracy theory then in circulation among right-wing circles—a meme suggesting that the Obama Administration had cleverly planted language in the ACA that could be used as a tool to get to the guns—would further erode public support for the legislation. For these reasons, Reid determined to insert some cozy language for the gun people into the Senate version of the ACA—language certain to escape public review at a time when the conversation was far more focused on hot button subjects like death panels, taxes and mandates.

For these reasons, the following language did, indeed, become a part of the nation’s controversial health care reform law:


‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition….






  1. Pretty amazing discovery Nicole.

    I wonder if an executive order of line item removal of this section, done in secret, like a lot of this regime’s hanky pooty has occurred to the authors of this section?

    We’ll see how the boogie shakes out on this. But this is some positive news.

    Tanx toots.


    • thx sugar 🙂 found it at Idylwyld Group..a blog I both detest and follow..haha

  2. wtf is that video doing there??????????????/

  3. oh its gone now…ad

    • What???

      You been hallyfallyflucinatin’ kiddo? {grin}


      • The Curious Case Of Benjamin Butthole LOL TO THE LOL!!

  4. The guy and his cronies act Above the Law. So until some other coalition Acts to yank them under the banner of law, they continue legislating against humanity and in favor of their agenda and cronies. If the Constitution and Bill of Rights don’t stop em or slow em down one bit, some little rule/law in Obamascare matters not a wit. That’s how it looks.

  5. They are my thoughts as well Boom. If they don’t like the law, they just change it to suit themselves. They don’t need no stinkin’ approval from anyone.

  6. I agree with you guys {and gals} I think this is why Biden immediately alluded to using an executive order for a federal gun ban. All is accomplished by diktat in dictatorships.

    Isn’t it amazing how totally in the open this dictatorial regime is now?
    Growing up here in Amerika, it was always so subtle, and never openly proclaimed or spelled out as it is these days.

    And still the most remarkable thing is, the majority hasn’t a clue.


  7. A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source; Newtown Police Chief Michael Kehoe

    WTF??? It’s okay because he was a cop?

    The Curious Case Of Benjamin Butthole


    • JG,

      Did you notice the police chief’s name? Kehoe

      I just know that name was in the news about another school shooting…

      Just kaint seemta place-mat it…{grin}


      • yes many seeming similarities/weirdnesses imagined and real,Im sure (whats the diff?) ❤ :).

  8. Wtf was he doing there is the question…right? Coto knows 😉

  9. The Clear and Present Danger of the Repercussions of Sandy Hook

    “List of executive actions Obama plans to take as part of anti-gun violence plan 16 Jan 2013 The following is a list, provided by the White House, of [23] executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence… Most interesting nuggets: 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks… 16. Clarify that the Affordable [sic] Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes… 17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers Fund ‘private security’ to explode the US police state. 19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.”
    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Why “Executive Actions”? To rule by diktat, bypassing the Legislative and Judicial branches.
    We face this tyranny armed at this point. Are we now to give up our arms in face of such prima facea despotism?

    Those who say “yes” to this deserve the tyranny they receive. Either at the hands of the current regime, or some perchance ‘revolutionary’ regime that might replace it.

    This is a dire moment in history for those who would be free, and also all of the “collateral damage” that would attend a civil war or revolution: all engineered by this tyrannical system.
    . . . . . . . . . . .

    Sandy Hook False Flag Fallout Reaching Critical Mass by Lori Price, 17 Jan 2013 Today, we read that a Newtown fourth-grade girl asked to ‘ban semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines.’ Wow. This is one erudite eight- or nine-year-old! See: Newtown Schools Chief Tells Washington Hearing About Fateful Day 16 Jan 2013 Newtown schools Superintendent Janet Robinson on Wednesday told U.S. House Democratic leaders about the horrors of the Dec. 14 shooting and ended by sharing a fourth-grader’s letter to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi asking for a change in gun laws. “What everyone in Newtown wants is for you to ban semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines and to make everyone use guns safely,” Robinson said, reading from the letter. “This is important so that a person cannot shoot many people at once, and/or injure people badly. Semiautomatic weapons and large-capacity magazines put lives at risk.” The Newtown fourth-grade girl asked that people opposed to gun control visit the town’s municipal offices, which are lined with boxes full of cards and letters, and to read one card from every box to realize just how many people want a change in gun laws. [Yes, she asked for people to visit the ‘town’s municipal offices.’ Now, how many *fourth-graders* do you know who pontificate about ‘large-capacity magazines’ and ‘municipal offices?’ This is obvious FAKERY.]

    Obama turns doctors into gun control snitches running health care spy network 16 Jan 2013 As part of Obama’s 23 executive orders announced today, doctors will be transformed into gun control snitches who are ordered by Obama to ask patients about guns they might have at home. What this means is that doctor-patient confidentiality is now history. Even worse, doctors are being pressed to start interrogating patients about whether they own guns so that this information can be reported to the government. This is all being done under the cover of so-called “gun safety” but it’s really about turning doctors into devious government spies who conduct covert patient interrogations under the cover of providing them with health care. Once collected by the government, this information will then be used to seize guns from those individuals under some kind of mental health designation.

    Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions in the State 15 Jan 2013 A Texas lawmaker says he plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Congress or imposed by Presidential order which would ban or restrict ownership of semi-automatic firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state, 1200 WOAI news reports. Republican Rep. Steve Toth says his measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state. “If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution,” Toth told 1200 WOAI’s Joe Pags Tuesday. He says his bill would make attempting to enforce a federal gun ban in Texas punishable by a *50,000 fine and up to five years in prison.

    Oregon, Texas officials warn White House against enforcing new gun regulations 16 Jan 2013 State officials in Oregon and Texas are vowing to fight back against any attempt by the federal government to impose new gun control laws. The warnings come as President Obama on Wednesday unveiled a comprehensive plan to address gun violence, based on the recommendations from the Vice President Biden-led task force. The plan includes a call for legislation to ban assault weapons as well as a variety of executive actions. But in Oregon, Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller wrote a letter to Biden Monday saying his department will not enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional. Meanwhile, 1200 WOAI reports that in Texas, state Rep. Steve Toth (R) plans to introduce a bill that would make it illegal to enforce in the state any federal laws restricting semi-automatic firearms or the size of gun magazines.”



    We can see the big picture. What comes is the right event to make this psych opportunity gel. Another false flag and the right perpetrators tying it to world terror and the connection at home.

    • ah! Im glad u knew what I meant about video ad pop up. ❤

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