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1.COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum

2. Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

3. Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

4. How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

5. Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression


COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a ‘uncontrolled forum.’

Technique #1 – ‘FORUM SLIDING’

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum – it can be quickly removed from public view by ‘forum sliding.’ In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to ‘age.’ Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a ‘forum slide.’ The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a ‘forum slide’ and ‘flush’ the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then ‘replying’ to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting ‘slides’ down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.


A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at is ‘consensus cracking.’ To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made – but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger ‘evidence’ or disinformation in your favour is slowly ‘seeded in.’ Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then ‘abort’ the consensus cracking by initiating a ‘forum slide.’

Technique #3 – ‘TOPIC DILUTION’

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’ By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.


Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a ‘show you mine so me yours’ posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your ‘favourite weapon’ and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite ‘technique of operation.’ From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 – ‘ANGER TROLLING’

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes – without the requirement to ‘stage’ a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to ‘lead’ the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you ‘do not care what the authorities think!!’ inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.


It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings – and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the ‘ultimate victory’ as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a ‘honey pot’ gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.


Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precedence [sic] to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.


Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the ‘How dare you!’ gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such ‘arguable rumors’. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a ‘wild rumor’ from a ‘bunch of kids on the Internet’ which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary ‘attack the messenger’ ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as ‘kooks’, ‘right-wing’, ‘liberal’, ‘left-wing’, ‘terrorists’, ‘conspiracy buffs’, ‘radicals’, ‘militia’, ‘racists’, ‘religious fanatics’, ‘sexual deviates’, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough ‘jargon’ and ‘minutia’ to illustrate you are ‘one who knows’, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man — usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with – a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues — so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the ‘high road’ and ‘confess’ with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made — but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, ‘just isn’t so.’ Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly ‘call for an end to the nonsense’ because you have already ‘done the right thing.’ Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for ‘coming clean’ and ‘owning up’ to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can ‘argue’ with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how ‘sensitive they are to criticism.’

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the ‘play dumb’ rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations — as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.


Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for ‘conspiracy theorists’ and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of ‘artificial’ emotionalism and an unusually thick skin — an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial.

Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the ‘image’ and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It’s just a job, and they often seem unable to ‘act their role in character’ as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later — an emotional yo-yo.

With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game — where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat ‘freudian’, so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I’m not aware of too many Navy pilots who don’t have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

8) Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:

a) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT – FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth.

b) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR – there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to ‘get permission’ or instruction from a formal chain of command.

c) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay – the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.


How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group that does all the wrong things. Why?

1) The message doesn’t get out.

2) A lot of time is wasted

3) The activist is frustrated and discouraged

4) Nothing good is accomplished.

FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they have phony [sic] activist organizations established.

Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace from developing in this country.

Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic background. They can be male or female.

The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant. It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on the spies and saboteurs.

This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up, destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists.

It is the agent’s job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control.

In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist:

“You’re dividing the movement.”

[Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver works to control people]

This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of “dedication to the cause.” Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she – being truly dedicated to the movement – becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that “on purpose.” It’s amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: “they did that unconsciously… they didn’t really mean it… I can help them by being forgiving and accepting ” and so on and so forth.

The agent will tell the activist:

“You’re a leader!”

This is designed to enhance the activist’s self-esteem. His or her narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to mirror those of the activist.

This is “malignant pseudoidentification.” It is the process by which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to foster the activist’s identification with him/her, thus increasing the activist’s vulnerability to exploitation. The agent will simulate the more subtle self-concepts of the activist.

Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency, autonomy, or knowledge.

The goal of the agent is to increase the activist’s general empathy for the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist’s self-concepts.

The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of “twinship”. It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the service of their agent/handler.

The activist’s “felt quality of perfection” [self-concept] is enhanced, and a strong empathic bond is developed with the agent through his/her imitation and simulation of the victim’s own narcissistic investments. [self-concepts] That is, if the activist knows, deep inside, their own dedication to the cause, they will project that onto the agent who is “mirroring” them.

The activist will be deluded into thinking that the agent shares this feeling of identification and bonding. In an activist/social movement setting, the adversarial roles that activists naturally play vis a vis the establishment/government, fosters ongoing processes of intrapsychic splitting so that “twinship alliances” between activist and agent may render whole sectors or reality testing unavailable to the activist. They literally “lose touch with reality.”

Activists who deny their own narcissistic investments [do not have a good idea of their own self-concepts and that they ARE concepts] and consciously perceive themselves (accurately, as it were) to be “helpers” endowed with a special amount of altruism are exceedingly vulnerable to the affective (emotional) simulation of the accomplished agent.

Empathy is fostered in the activist through the expression of quite visible affects. The presentation of tearfulness, sadness, longing, fear, remorse, and guilt, may induce in the helper-oriented activist a strong sense of compassion, while unconsciously enhancing the activist’s narcissistic investment in self as the embodiment of goodness.

The agent’s expresssion of such simulated affects may be quite compelling to the observer and difficult to distinguish from deep emotion.

It can usually be identified by two events, however:

First, the activist who has analyzed his/her own narcissistic roots and is aware of his/her own potential for being “emotionally hooked,” will be able to remain cool and unaffected by such emotional outpourings by the agent.

As a result of this unaffected, cool, attitude, the Second event will occur: The agent will recompensate much too quickly following such an affective expression leaving the activist with the impression that “the play has ended, the curtain has fallen,” and the imposture, for the moment, has finished. The agent will then move quickly to another activist/victim.

The fact is, the movement doesn’t need leaders, it needs MOVERS. “Follow the leader” is a waste of time.

A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved discussions.

Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner:

1) To disrupt the agenda

2) To side-track the discussion

3) To interrupt repeatedly

4) To feign ignorance

5) To make an unfounded accusation against a person.

Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the eyes of all other group members.


Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ….

1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)

2) Print flyers in English only.

3) Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.

4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support

5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing.

6) Confuse issues.

7) Make the wrong demands.

Cool Compromise the goal.

9) Have endless discussions that waste everyone’s time. The agent may accompany the endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the activist’s work.


1) Want to establish “leaders” to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.

2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.

3) Encourage militancy.

4) Want to taunt the authorities.

5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values.

6) Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent.

7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.


1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.

2) Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).

3) Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.

4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment.


Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog. Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves.

Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political parties or movements set up by agents.


ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance.

At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good activist!

Scare Tactics

They use them.

Such tactics include slander, defamation, threats, getting close to disaffected or minimally committed fellow activists to persuade them (via psychological tactics described above) to turn against the movement and give false testimony against their former compatriots. They will plant illegal substances on the activist and set up an arrest; they will plant false information and set up “exposure,” they will send incriminating letters [emails] in the name of the activist; and more; they will do whatever society will allow.

This booklet in no way covers all the ways agents use to sabotage the lives of sincere an dedicated activists.

If an agent is “exposed,” he or she will be transferred or replaced.

COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.

The FBI counterintelligence program’s stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. “National Security” means the FBI’s security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people’s civil liberties.


Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

1. Dummy up. If it’s not reported, if it’s not news, it didn’t happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the “How dare you?” gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as “rumors” or, better yet, “wild rumors.” If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through “rumors.” (If they tend to believe the “rumors” it must be because they are simply “paranoid” or “hysterical.”)

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like “conspiracy theorist,” “nutcase,” “ranter,” “kook,” “crackpot,” and, of course, “rumor monger.” Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the “more reasonable” government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own “skeptics” to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as “old news.”

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as “confession and avoidance” or “taking the limited hangout route.” This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal “mistakes.” This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster “suicide” note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven’t reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as “bump and run” reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the “facts” furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges “expose” scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, “What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?” Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.




  1. Here’s the utube vid of anderson CIA cooper…

    • Yea…quite a hit piece on Prof. Tracy…

      He is wise not to go on air with this ball of shit Cooper. Obviously they would like to see Tracy fired for insolence against the state.
      “Sickening” says Cooper…what a smarmy hypocrite cop.

      “Listen to the mockingbird, singing where the willows used to sway…”
      . . . . . . . . . . . .

      Opps…the air raid sirens are going off here…must be a tornado visiting the area…it’s raining bats and frogs out there..


      • yikes will hope u have a storm cellar to go to!

        • Nah…I play the odds. They are very good you know.
          The chances of being killed by a tornado as only a little worse than being killed by a “terrorist”…
 I never play the state lottery.


  2. Wow, I’m just watching it for the first time now.. I’d not seen Pozner’s mother before. FAKE AGAIN… omg…so far EVERY family member they have paraded before the tv cams is FAKE. It’s so f’kn obvious! No mother of a recently murdered child would speak the way she does. She talks about growing a life for 9 months and seconds for an AK 7 to take that life away. WHAT??!! BS

  3. What does counterintelligence actually mean? It is a counter to human intelligence for the benefit of the state. In a national security state “intelligence” is a ‘state secret’, real knowledge must be hidden from the people, for they would never stand for the true agenda of enforced neofeudalism by that state.




    • Nothing too obvious Deb. The peace sign and a little MK-Ultra butterfly. I worked it over in photoshop but really nothing came from it. Why?

  5. CNN and the Military
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    The line between the mainstream media and the military has again been blurred. Alexander Cockburn tells the story in yesterday’s San Jose Mercury News:

    “A handful of military personnel from the 4th Psychological Operations Group (i.e. PSYOPs) based at Fort Bragg in North Carolina have until recently been working in CNN’s headquarters in Atlanta. An enterprising Dutch journalist named Abe De Vries came up with this important story in mid-February, and he remains properly astounded that no mainstream news medium in the United States has evinced any interest in the story.” [includes rush transcript]

    Filed under Freedom of the Press

    “De Vries later told me he’d originally come upon the story via an article in the French Intelligence newsletter Feb. 17, which described a military symposium in Arlington, Va., held at the beginning of that same month, discussing use of the press in military operations.” Col. Christopher St. John, commander of the U.S. Army’s 4th PSYOPs Group, was quoted by a French Intelligence correspondent, present at the symposium, as (in the correspondent’s words) having “called for greater cooperation between the armed forces and media giants.” He (St. John) pointed out that some Army PSYOPs personnel had worked for CNN for several weeks, and helped in the production of some news stories for the network.


    Alexander Cockburn, nationally renowned columnist and editor of CounterPunch a bi-weekly political newsletter. Call CounterPunch: 800.840.3683.
    Abe De Vries: Balkans correspondent for Trouw, a leading Dutch daily newspaper.
    Eason Jordan, President of News Gathering and International Networks for CNN News.


    Very interesting I cannot post a comment on the CIA Tracy memory hole blog. Not even with a strawman id. I saw Rogues comments there, but mine go into moderation file 86 at Langley.

    Hey deb, why dont you try posting comments on

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    • Hell, even Dallas Goldbug got a comment on it.

      • I saw at least one post from you there Puddy.

        I was on moderation for a couple of posts, then suddenly my comments began appearing as soon as I posted them..{?}

        If you don’t see your comment when you go back now…hmmm
        Don’t know what to say…maybe Langley just collects all your stuff now? Spooky dooky dood.

        The shills seem to have fallen away substantially after the first days onslaught. Tess the mess and Blatherstoner seem to have given up__for now.


      • Here are two posted there Puddy:
        . . . . . . . . . .

        Puddy Dunne January 13, 2013 at 4:26 pm

        Your outrage is as hollow as your intent. Does this outrage carry over the POTUS who has killed over 200 children with drone strikes since he took office. You are a troll.
        . . . . . . . . . .
        Puddy Dunne January 13, 2013 at 5:14 pm

        Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

        Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

        1. Dummy up. If it’s not reported, if it’s not news, it didn’t happen.

        2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the “How dare you?” gambit.

        Spare us the “HOW DARE YOU” BS. This was Bill Clintons use of the Wax on Wax off. You trolls use the same old techniques and you stand out like zits on an arse.

        What’s you real name FIRST RESPONDER? We’ll give you the workover as well. Troll.
        . . . . . . . . . .


        • Yes I guess my complaints here got response there. It only took three days = 3

          Others still are not there. The good ones 🙂 Disqus throw. Who’s running this scam.

          Answer: a hundred monkeys

  6. FEMA L-366 Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters [posted 12/14/12] Connecticut

    12/14/12 = 11 the fool
    L-366 =15=6

    ID=CAC9C6C9CD83CDC9C7 = 6

    Location: 2800 Main Street, Bridgeport, CT9 AM – 4 PM
    Contact: Christopher Ackley
    Phone: (203)-696-2640
    5 of 40 seats still available
    Last day to register: 12/13/2012
    Sorry, you may not register for this event

    awww shit.

  7. Dear Mr. Dunne,

    I enjoyed reading the lengthy article except for a couple of minor issues that you can correct.

    You have not given attribution for any of the articles: who wrote them and where is their (nearest) home on the internet?

    You have borrowed at least 4 articles penned by others; I’ve read most of it elsewhere on the internet.


    • RAW Paste Data

      Sorry I always use links. I missed that one. Too tired that night.

    • No it was on the file, it just got chopped due to the photos. I hate WP html.

    • You know what “Key Word” searches are Maxipunk?

      Give it a shot.


      • Faithful in the small things…

        Mr. Rogue asks me if I know what “key word” searches are and then suggests that I give it a shot. Mr. Rogue, this is ~not~ about ~me~ or my ability to find information on the internet.

        It is about plagarism. Without proper attribution on those four articles, readers (and googler’s) could assume they came from Mr. Dunne’s pen. I know that at least two of those articles encourage netizens to re-publish them freely, but I recall them making a point to give the original author credit, which I don’t see.

        Without proper attribution, “fair-use” of the text “for education, discussion, and critique” gets buried under the charge of theft. I do not think that this was Mr. Dunne’s intent. Good thing that the wonders of WordPress allows him to edit his posting above, fix the attribution problem, re-publish it, and new readers won’t be the wiser. No Problem-o.

        What ~is~ it about? Honesty and credibility.

        Mr. Dunne should note Mr. Rogue’s actions. Did Mr. Rogue ask Mr. Dunne if he knew about key word searches? Did Mr. Rogue provide assistance to Mr. Dunne in this matter?

        Given how much Mr. Rogue knows about key word searches and that he is a true friend and loyal comrad, he probably could have researched the matter for Mr. Dunne and posted the results as a comment.

        Nope, he didn’t. Instead, Mr. Rogue leaves Mr. Dunne and COTO exposed to get dinged by plagarism complaints. So faithful is Mr. Rogue in the small things…


        • Yes, more bla bla bla from the cop.


        • Hey Maxipuke,

          Did you see this?

          “Based on the contents of a comment he sent to this blog today, Mr. Onebornfree is no longer welcome to post here.”
          ~Craig McKee, JANUARY 13, 2013 – 9:27 PM

          Ding Dong the ding dong is long gone.
          The deck is missing a one eyed jackass.


        • senor suck please, I dont care about your anal compulsive finger wagging…holier than thou wtf , you are looking like the warning signs listed above!

          • With all due respect, Ms. Dawnatilla, your offer to suck on you flatters me but would interfere with my marriage as well as your and Mr. Rogue’s online and public courtship. By the way, did you note the “forum slide”?

  8. Senor Tossed Salad — Are you the Librarian schooling folks ON THIS SITE about your predilections for the Screwy Dewy Decimal System? C’mon refrito burrito?!

    If you’ve got something MORE than nitpicking, then offer it up. I actually laughed at your petty “offended” petulance! HAHAHA!!!

    The freaking clay spittoon doesn’t remonstrate with “The Potter”. I’m sure you can figure out my analogy there. Whatever…

    If you are so rigid as to be turgid (dick shon airy that to grok the simellytude), glomp your way to an AA place where you can unload your compulsive crampiness upon another populace. Do you Grok?

    Smell Check Your Own Emissions to Your Heart’s Content. Take the elevator going Down###

    • haha you need to be a known lyricist

  9. Dear Mr. BoomerangComesBack,

    Now you have me confused. Am I the cop or the librarian? You wrote:

    I actually laughed at your petty “offended” petulance!

    Good, because I laughted when I wrote it.

    But rules are rules. Worse. They are ~your~ rules, which I gather apply to everyone else but “the COTO regulars.”

    Meanwhile, your words of wisdom would be wiser if you followed them yourself:

    If you’ve got something MORE than nitpicking, then offer it up.

    Seeing how I am posting, I might as well make it worthwhile. And guess what it ties together?

    (a) Two of the embedded articles 25 Rules of Disinformation & 8 Traits of the Disinformationalist by H. Michael Sweeney, which were included above but without attribution.

    (b) The MORE that you request.

    (c) The MORE that Mr. Rogue’s hoped for in his great introduction:

    Yes, more bla bla bla from the cop.

    Shart, Mr. Rogue. If you’re going to call me a cop, at least provide some substantiation, as I did with you. [Be careful of what you wish for…]

    lead the readers in circles (2012-03-04)

    A trait of a disinformation agent is to lead the readers in circles. Other traits include asking their opponents to perform research or calculations whose results the agent will then promptly ignore.

    “Fizzling” is a bullshit term? (2012-03-14)

    Mr. HybridRogue1, I detest calling participants “disinfo agents” unless their action and demeanor set them up to be such. Your four postings to my one sets you up as such. The content of your postings, as already exhibited above, proves it.

    long time since taking anything you have to say as worthy of consideration (2012-04-30)

    hybridrogue1 says: 227 ± 5 (30%)
    Jim Fetzer says: 166 ± 5 (22%)
    Craig McKee says: 67 ± 3 (8.9%)
    OneSliceShort says: 64 ± 3 (8.5%)
    keenanroberts says: 47 ± 3 (6%)
    onebornfree says: 43 (5.7%)
    Señor El Once says: 30 (4%)

    no obligation to handle me (2012-05-17)

    Take a lesson from how I handle A. Wright: ignore me. In fact, that you engage A. Wright at all [after being told not to and after recognizing for yourself his nature] becomes a data point fitting into a trend line. It starts to have the appearance of a tactic to build your legend as a 9/11 Truther.

    I find agreeable your overall contributions to the forum but with these three exceptions.

    [1] Your frequency of posting, sometimes with multiple postings one-after-the-other with nary a soul engaging you to merit the 2nd or nth additional posting. Obviously, you’re too hasty with your replies and not providing enough contemplative thought to your responses if you must constantly come back with additional postings of the nature: “And one more thing I forgot, Señor…” It starts to have the appearance of a tactic to flood the forum and become your personal playground.

    [2] Your reply postings that are not made close to the source and are instead top-level. It starts to have the appearance of a tactic to screw up the readability of the discussion and to make it difficult for lurker readers, particularly when the subject matter is important [like addressing appropriately the energy questions of 9/11].

    [3] The vast majority of your postings to me, which refuse to acknowledge nuggets of truth and instead are sweeping “bla bla bla bla bla…” infinitum dismal carousels. It isn’t your place to dismiss me either. It starts to have the appearance of a tactic to steer the lurker truth seekers from seeking it beyond.

    “Touchy Agent Rogue” (2012-06-26)

    Because a blatant agent trick of Sr. Rogue is to mess up the comments sections to Truth & Shadows.

    “Nuggets of Truth: That’s my central calling.” (2012-07-16)

    Framing me as an agent – that seems to be his central calling here.

    Nope. Nuggets of Truth. That’s my central calling. Casting Mr. Rogue into the frame of a Q-agent? Mr. Rogue provides plenty of lumber to the frame. … My Q assessment can be changed. But certain genius ego ticks and an unwavering holding to a perceived agenda keep it coming back. And there is still a matter of a book review lingering…


    • And so a triple barrel load of bla bla bla from the cop…

      Hohohohehehehahaha….we all get a laugh.


    • Sheetfarts onda bayou you bay I bay everybody baybay woowoo damn and fuck bla bla bla…

      Either or? No. youda cop librarian beancounter buttsniffer


  10. yIKES! You’re stinking on me with your nimble fingertood and continuing pickleishness. Are you for real? Or are you a virtual shadow dood?

    That’s wunnerful wrighting like a wascally wabbit that wears a habit; but why waste the pixels on proprieties? Perhaps you’re a niglar for minutia, or the microscopic, I dunno? Whatever El churrito. You can call me wahtever 2. It don’t matter do it?

    Proffer some real items of observation that titillate. You say you read around; then share what you’ve found and expound. That’s much better than skulking around and getting all pedantic and shit…

    Share some information if you got any! COTO is the place for getting smarter.

    • You obiwan can no be taken ol maxiwad as da seriouso Boomer,
      Take a dumptruck of salt an pourit onda snail all hail the buttcheese machine, he gotta prosopagnosia blooz an thunkum heenozus.


  11. The CNN you can trust..Lol


  12. 1/14/12 = 9

    AC-DC 360 will be in Sandy Hoaxsville New World Ordertown and Agent Andy has drugged the town again to a meeting hall to dump more MK Ultra slick props for the dumbed downed masses.

    Kenny Chesney from Nashvile MK-Ultra HQ will sing a rendition of amazing Grace in honor of the alleged dead Grace McDonnell.


    It’s a Pink affair. Do you know a pink affair?

  13. I think Renee Zellweger and Kenny Chesney ought to play the McDonnells in the Hollywood production

      • Why don’t we just refer to it as “Sandy Crook”?

        The poor mainstream mainliners are stuck peddling the shopworn tune of pity the gravity of the goobers. We can’t even speak with MSM readers, ’cause they’re always stuck in the propaganda “bloom”. Its like they’re floating out in the ocean, drowning, and they don’t know it, and you can’t help them. They think they’re on a Cruise. WTF?!


  14. “Please note that from day one, the two handguns (“pistols”), were immediately identified – both to type of weapon (pistols) and ‘manufacturer’. Since the positive ID of the pistols has remained essentially unaltered from day-one, this seems to indicate that the individual(s) who ID’ed those ‘pistols’ had to see them first-hand. This begs a question;… Why would the individuals(s) who initially ID’ed the pistols, EXCLUDE the glaring presence of a “rife”, on or around the alleged shooter when the pistols were ID’ed? This suggests to me, that there was NO “rifle” in the school?

    (2.) Upon entering a crime scene littered with spent shell casings, any crime scene investigator worth his pay would immediately notice the difference between 9mm (pistol) brass and “223″ (rifle) brass – the two are completely different in size and shape… and easily recognizable from 20 feet away. It wasn’t until days later that the “rifle” somehow magically appeared in the school… and the crime scene was suddenly littered with ‘hundreds’ of rounds of unmistakably identifiable spent shell casing.”
    ~Kenny – Memory Hole blog


    • I’m no gun expert but I know the casings of 9mm are less than half the size of .223 or 5.56×45.

      I’d like to have the time that Jones had with Piers. I’d have assaulted him with facts so lethal as to have him wishing it was remmington.

      I can’t believe the jig isn’t up on this. 911 was a major operation. If sheeple cannot spot this one there is no HOPE for freedom. Time to sail away.

      • Sadly, they may be mad as hatters. Poisoned against common sense and logic.

      • Speaking of Jones….I was re-reading a bit of 1984…I love the smell of irony in the morning…

        “The answer to 1984 is 1776” ~ Alex Jones

        “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.” ~ Orwell 1984

        • You got a V for Vendetta there, EOW. A five tier program, one of which is civilian revolt. The geopolitical BS we have been watching
          has been nothing less than ‘wagging the dog’

          What I believe we have is twenty seven (9) not dead in Handy Shnook and far more dead in Africom. They are running a multiplex Aurora psyop in one theatre while the other eight venues are empty and covert.

          Someone fucked up the October Surprise. Now prepare for the spin in Benghazi. Liborgate and Fast and Furious’ gunwalker, containment securely under exec. privy and judicial manipulation we can now look to other sheeple events.

          Lance Armstrong cut a deal with the devil. He’ll charge up the tank of fear and loathing for idiot america. A liar, worthy of Soetoro was he in this doping. This will have the testosterone deficient couch muffins something to jerk off with.

          What other scandalgates and Suicidings and epic failures we have in store will be based solely on the ability to keep the covert ops out of view. Africom will be too difficult so I expect a series of tales for waggin here.

          I expect it in the EU too. It’s Time for a Airbus crash in US. payback from Boeing. Skyfall.

          • I can understand dancing with Doubt.

            What I don’t get is turning her to Certainty.

            By what alchemy is this achieved?


  15. More good photos of Principal Hopscotch, the Phelps and the Greenberg/Sextons

    It’s a match Gene.

    • All Aboard for the Prosopagnosia Woowoo Train


    • WOW PD! The devil horn guy looks exactly like “Sextons” uncle.. Ok, that’s three definite matches in my book.

      What are the odds that three people looking so much alike from the same family would look like three people involved with the SH hoax? VERY VERY slim.

      • Yeah what are the odds? Mathematically megalotto I think. Let’s ponder on why they want us to know. Dat(a) (b)e where we (c) the (d)awn.

        The “dawn” has arrived and it is red.

  16. Yeow Puddy! That’s a Wrap! So the question now is debunkers — how do you explain away these very conspicuous commonalities? Eh? Got anything that could possibly explain these most interesting connections?

    Woo Woo is right Rogue1!

    • Sorry Boomer you took my comment backwards, I don’t buy any of this horseshit. Especially the “actor” as Holme’s attorney.

      Look up, Prosopagnosia…it seems that some portion of the crew here might be suffering from it.


      • Looked up Prosopagnosia, and my “looker” doesn’t recognize it. Why not just explain it? Thanks.

        Why do you think these are bullshit? Sorry, horseshit?

        • Boomer,

          Because aside from the “possibility” not certainty that the Phelps’ are the Sexton’s – it is certain that none of the others are near positive matches.

          Obviously this is a pretty subjective issue. That is the reason I don’t like this type of inquiry. There are a shit load of suspicious things that don’t add up.

          Arguing over whether an apple is a disguised orange here is one thing, at least if we are arguing that a tangerine looks like an orange that would be different.

          I see the Phelps-Sexton thing as more the tangerine and orange thing as all else are clearly apples v oranges.

          This is my personal opinion It is obvious that most of you disagree. That is fine with me. Move on or keep trying to convince me. Whatever anyone wants to do or say here is fine with me – because that is what I do.

          But I channeled Pearinmyhandsa Yogiberia last night__you know the great Pre-Columbian Indian chief who used to run the rackets in Moscow? Yea him, and he told me all the secrets. But I’m sworn to “national security” as far as that info goes…


  17. Not hardly. Those resemblances are too close. The Phelps are the Sextons. No doubt. Prosopagnosia is what America sheeple may be suffering from. Dallas may be reaching but these Greenbergs he dead right on. Gabby Giffords CIA NASA man is all over the place. It’s a troupe of monkeys and a congress of baboons. Obama is an Orangist faking a democrat. He’s an orangutan.

    • The Phelps and Sextons are close…it is a maybe in my view, the rest of the so called matches are obvious horseshit.

      I don’t have any idea what Gabby Giffords is supposed to have to do with any of this…?


      • I trust my eyes less than my gut in this analog deficient, digitized reality. Much as I accept you as being real Rogue, the truth is a frequency that never finds it’s way under the ions of Sion.

        I cannot be certain of anything but I don’t take the five senses as serious as you do in my process.

        • Yep PD, you can be deceived by you own lyin’ eyes…but your gut is where the truth always lies. You just have to pay attention and follow it 😉 My instincts rarely let me down.

        • Well that’s the beauty of COTO there are different perspectives to choose from here on various topics.


    • The Phelps/Sextons ARE the same couple..NO doubt in my mind or GUT about that. The rest they are pushing on that page.. no.. not to me anyway.

      • Gabby Giffords had the Greenbergs/Sextons too. I posted those and agreed the staging there was as phony as a three dollah bill’o’fare.

  18. There is a video at the bottom of the comments on this page:

    It seems to show a ‘hole’? at about chest shoulder height{?} which I don’t understand how someone could enter through …

    But more interesting to me is after that video, there is a page shot of other vids to check out – look at the still pic on the lower left of that group…it looks to me like Adam Lanza being put in a police car – and appears to be in front of the school??


    • Sure as shit looks like the purported Lanza kid. And they’ve got a bullet proof vest with a chest plate on him (looks like suspenders at first, but its a vest). It could be anybody anywhere from some other event…how can we know? If it was at Sandy Crook though, it only makes sense for it to be Lanza (or another perp not named).

      What of the broken window? It looks like someone could step through it. I find the statement that the 2 women (one the principal) near the front door “put up a fight” as ridiculous, if the shooter came in with a gun. Getting shot dead immediately isn’t “putting up a fight”.

      • Yea…I really wish we could ID that pic that appears to be Lansa.
        That would really put a rip through the official story that couldn’t be taped back together__not even duct tape could save the queen then.

        If you know the construction of that safety glass they use for doors like that_it has a screen mesh inside, and no matter what kind of rounds, even a shotgun blast isn’t going to disconnect all the wires making of the screen mesh. It would take minutes, not seconds to cut those away with clippers…

        …so how was this hole actually made? Again, nothing makes sense on the short time scale this event supposedly to place in.

        It’s a bloomin’ bloodythrall. Spun glass offered as cotton candy.


    • Will, I went there and got lost in the memory hole looking for the video. It’s very crowded and dark down there. Can you please just post the link here? Thanks.

      • It certainly not a Justin Beiber dope bust. 😉 Looks like atom lanza, the strawman. If there really is such a person

      • Thanks PD.. I didn’t know Will was referring to the other vids at the end of the one he posted. I clicked on that video and here it is..

        .but.. the picture doesn’t show up anywhere in the video .. a girl asked where she got that photo of “Lanza” …here’s the interaction:

        Kylie Malchus 1 week ago

        There is truly no way to explain this unless the whole shooting
        was planned. Even if the Facebook group name was changed after the fact, it would not change the url. The url always remains whatever the original group was. I have a question though: where did you find the teaser photo for this? The one with what looks like Adam Lanza being put in a police car?

        subliminalproof 1 week ago

        You need to direct yourself to the documentary I’ve made, “Sandy Hook – The Truth” it’s live now. As for the teaser photo, I have no idea, I got it from Google.
        · in reply to Kylie Malchus

        WTF? WHERE IS THAT PHOTO FROM? I checked google and didn’t find it but I’m at work and don;t have time to search further.. Will? Help me out here if you can? This in itself is odd.

        • Yea Deb I spent about half an hour looking for it – and getting no-where with it, my internet suddenly said “poop”, and I have been trying to get back on board again wading through cold molasses.

          This is REALLY weird…she has no idea about the photo, but obviously recognized Lanza to use the photo for a teaser shot.
          But isn’t curious about the photo enough to even think about it??

          If that is Lanza, it is much heavier evidence that the jabber about the date stamps.

          Is this whole thing a “Tease”? Part of the psyop to dribble out explosive little tidbids like this?

          EVERYTHING seems to come with a booby-prize in this case.



        • Yeah I too looked for it and you can with knowledge implant the stop frame. They use it often for crap mind control crud by posting a big breasted Foxbot. Sophomoric tinkering for the grunion.

        • The ‘Lanza’ character here looks “asleep”…in trance. Not just that he is looking down, but the facial features are so relaxed.

          I think this boy has been shot up with gravy and is off to the MK circus.


      • Thinking about the possible Lanza photo…

        Judging by the people aside from “Lanza” – this could be taken that morning somewhere else. The guy in the white coat could be a “doktar of MK hypnoids”, this may be a shot of them getting Lanza-like into the car, ready to take him to the stage for the BIG SHOW.

        • White coat? You mean the guy in the pale blue shirt & tie?

          • Yea I do Deb, He has that “doctor” look to me…gut thing {grin}


  19. \\][//

    • Did you see how Vance totally convoluted his answer to the question in order to confuse and discourage further questioning on how the perp got into the school?

  20. This is kinda interesting — from Rense — “Obama hypnotized Us”:

    Get’s a little long, but makes a point.

    • I remember we talked about ‘Obama hypnotized Us’ way back on OEN.

      The neurolinguistic hypnosis techniques, that he used at his rallies.
      No doubt about it as far as what I saw at that time. He still uses the patterning and voice modulations in his speeches.

      I’m a bit gun-shy of traveling the webways at the moment so I’m not going to go to the vimeo page now.


  21. 2013-01-15

    Dear Mr. Rogue,

    I was wondering if I could tap into your expertise in videos for an explanation of an effect in the video clips buried within this larger video (that Adam Syed posted on Truth & Shadows).

    Starting at about 19:33 there is an aerial video of the scene that crisply depicts the humans and vehicles. As it zooms out (before the cut at 19:45), the wooded area on the right is beyond out of focus it is so messed up. The trees look more like smoke.

    Starting at 20:00, you see the whole “smokey-tree” phenomenon again in several areas, but cars, buildings, and people remain rather crisp. I might be able to grok this for the zoom-out, but as it zooms in (20:08), those wooded areas don’t get any crisper. At 20:12 if you look at the pedestrian zebra strip, the fuzziness from the trees (like smoke) seems to roll onto parked vehicles and the police car at the zebra crossing.

    20:33 is another sequence that has crispy clear elements followed by munged, smokey trees.

    So, any insight into the visual issues?

    If you listen to what the guy is saying about the road blockage and lack of kids, seems rather fishy. Also fishy is remembering the words of the Coroner regarding this big thing that FEMA set up quickly. I don’t recall seeing that in the videos, unless the smokey trees were hiding it.

    26:47 and a coincidental FEMA class focused on children and disasters happening during the same hours and not all that far away.

    It will also provide them guidance and direction on how to form coalitions and how to become advocates for the unique needs of children in all aspects of emergency management.

    Ooo-ooo-ooo!!! Here’s a nugget of truth from September Clues (and Let’s Roll Forums) that is now rolled into Sandy Hook! The 9/11 simVictims research had this thing about creation and modification dates of pictures, particularly those used in some online memorials. [Apologies for stating this from a faulty memory…] It seems that some of the 9/11 IT efforts into memorial images happened in advance, e.g., prior to 9/11.

    And so when viewing this video (at 27:48), they claim Victoria Soto’s memorial facebook page was created on 12/10. Another Sandy Hook Fund site for the victims was created a three days early (12/11). Another was created on 12/13. Gee, and even grieving father Robbie got Emily’s site up and able to accept donations on 12/14, the very day of “Sandy Hook ’em.”

    Gives me a hare-brain idea. Maybe we all should become pro-active IT specialists by creating memorial funds for the towns or counties where we live BEFORE they are needed… As insurance. Reminds me of a song that performance-artist Laurie Anderson used to “sing”. Paraphrased:

    We should carry bombs onto planes, not because we plan on using them. It is just that the probability of a single bomb [with negative intent] being on your flight is small, but the chances of TWO bombs being on your flight is so astronomically small, it could never happen.

    • That was something that jumped out at me too Max, the blurred out area of the trees. I can only say that it is blurred out on purpose, it is not an anomaly in the original video.



  23. Comparing Adam Lanza’s DNA to Forensic DNA Databases: A Modest Proposal
    By Ricki Lewis, PhD
    Posted: January 3, 2013

    You know where I have been on RNA protein transmutation and the mind war. I know in my soul the agenda (21) = 3

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