Posted by: wxman2001 | November 2, 2011

Hidden History of Turkey and Saudia Arabia

Wayne Madesn has an excellent two part article on the Donmeh, the controlling force behind much of Turkey’s and Saudia Arabia’s history in the 20th century. Enjoy!

There is a historical “eight hundred pound gorilla” lurking in the background of almost every serious military and diplomatic incident involving Israel, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Greece, Armenia, the Kurds, the Assyrians, and some other players in the Middle East and southeastern Europe. It is a factor that is generally only whispered about at diplomatic receptions, news conferences, and think tank sessions due to the explosiveness and controversial nature of the subject. And it is the secretiveness attached to the subject that has been the reason for so much misunderstanding about the current breakdown in relations between Israel and Turkey, a growing warming of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, and increasing enmity between Saudi Arabia and Iran…

Although known to historians and religious experts, the centuries-old political and economic influence of a group known in Turkish as the “Dönmeh” is only beginning to cross the lips of Turks, Arabs, and Israelis who have been reluctant to discuss the presence in Turkey and elsewhere of a sect of Turks descended from a group of Sephardic Jews who were expelled from Spain during the Spanish Inquisition in the 16th and 17th centuries. These Jewish refugees from Spain were welcomed to settle in the Ottoman Empire and over the years they converted to a mystical sect of Islam that eventually mixed Jewish Kabbala and Islamic Sufi semi-mystical beliefs into a sect that eventually championed secularism in post-Ottoman Turkey. It is interesting that “Dönmeh” not only refers to the Jewish “untrustworthy converts” to Islam in Turkey but it is also a derogatory Turkish word for a transvestite, or someone who is claiming to be someone they are not.

The Donmeh sect of Judaism was founded in the 17th century by Rabbi Sabbatai Zevi, a Kabbalist who believed he was the Messiah but was forced to convert to Islam by Sultan Mehmet IV, the Ottoman ruler. Many of the rabbi’s followers, known as Sabbateans, but also “crypto-Jews,” publicly proclaimed their Islamic faith but secretly practiced their hybrid form of Judaism, which was unrecognized by mainstream Jewish rabbinical authorities. Because it was against their beliefs to marry outside their sect, the Dönmeh created a rather secretive sub-societal clan.

The Dönmeh rise to power in Turkey

Many Dönmeh, along with traditional Jews, became powerful political and business leaders in Salonica. It was this core group of Dönmeh, which organized the secret Young Turks, also known as the Committee of Union and Progress, the secularists who deposed Ottoman Sultan Abdulhamid II in the 1908 revolution, proclaimed the post-Ottoman Republic of Turkey after World War I, and who instituted a campaign that stripped Turkey of much of its Islamic identity after the fall of the Ottomans. Abdulhamid II was vilified by the Young Turks as a tyrant, but his only real crime appears to have been to refuse to meet Zionist leader Theodore Herzl during a visit to Constantinople in 1901 and reject Zionist and Dönmeh offers of money in return for the Zionists to be granted control of Jerusalem.

Like other leaders who have crossed the Zionists, Sultan Adulhamid II appears to have sealed his fate with the Dönmeh with this statement to his Ottoman court: “Advise Dr. Herzl not to take any further steps in his project. I cannot give away even a handful of the soil of this land for it is not my own, it belongs to the entire Islamic nation. The Islamic nation fought jihad for the sake of this land and had watered it with their blood. The Jews may keep their money and millions. If the Islamic Khalifate state is one day destroyed then they will be able to take Palestine without a price! But while I am alive, I would rather push a sword into my body than see the land of Palestine cut and given away from the Islamic state.” After his ouster by Ataturk’s Young Turk Dönmeh in 1908, Abdulhamid II was jailed in the Donmeh citadel of Salonica. He died in Constantinople in 1918, three years after Ibn Saud agreed to a Jewish homeland in Palestine and one year after Lord Balfour deeded Palestine away to the Zionists in his letter to Baron Rothschild.




  1. Part 2 is a link on the bottom of the part 1 article.

  2. Evan sent me a message yesterday WXMAN. Very odd Madsen and you are in that same frequency.
    (part 3 of 3)

    Khazars and Zionism The answer to 1984 is 1776. For those history buffs 1776 was a year far more important to the illuminati than to American Sheeple.

  3. Oh no more vatican assassins. Just as I was getting used to the idea of the royal lizards.

    • Reptiles to the Trekies, lower than snakes to us.

  4. I’m back on my game and predicted 11/11/11 currency crisis EU. Greece and France are at risk for serious event. Whether FF or EMP, it will happen. The year end is looming and several events must happen before the 12/22/11 and onto the big event likely before or on Mayday.

    EMP US attack. Follows the 11/9/11 EBS / EAS test
    Iran-Khazar attack imminent. 2/1/12

  5. Yes, the family Saud are crypto-jews as well. There is even a detailed history of how they became such rich princes….the Wahhabi sect is the same sort of Kabbalahistic form of phony “Islam” as the Dönmeh.

    Of course the “Christian Zionists” are in the same bucket of slime dealing with the judaicized Scofield Bible…these ‘Learned Elders’ have quite the schemata in all the enchiladas.

    • Do take heed of Douglas Reed – THE CONTROVERSY OF ZION

      A free PDF on the web…the single most important history book on the planet Earth.


  6. heed, heeb, read, reed. .^-^.

    • Lol…good one Boomer…

  7. “Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim al-Shammari’s book, The Wahhabi Movement: The Truth and Roots, which states that King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, the first Kingdom of Saudi Arabia monarch, was descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Moishe, a Jewish merchant also from Basra. In Nejd, Moishe joined the Aniza tribe and changed his name to Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa. Eventually, Mordechai married off his son, Jack Dan, who became Al-Qarn, to a woman from the Anzah tribe of the Nejd. From this union, the future Saud family was born.”~Madsen

    Yes, this is the information I referred to in a post above…

  8. AV1611 the bastard emerged. Then came the Khazars rolling along to all points. Setting up the networks and ponzi’s to stay within the bloodline. 1667 – Using human beings for transfusions to stay alive in the Khazar assimilation.

    In The Thirteenth Tribe (1976), another major illuminati year and an important book

    I’d like to have read Arthur Koestlers final work exposing the whole charade he came to know after taking the LSD trip but he was a major wellstone and character assassination victim via the MOSSAD.


      Free PDF of The Thirteenth Tribe

      • Everyone should read. I need to read your recommendation but I am reading science journal on Protein Peptide synthesis and the bullshit health myths regarding red meat, carbs and soy. Everything being sold is a load of corn syrup and microwave death.

        Pumping up the immune system the right way is essential. brain death is worse than diabetes.

        • ’13th Tribe’ is really quite wonderful, the history is rich and well documented with citations. A fascinating world is brought forth from the mists of antiquity.

          Great read.

  9. “Occupy Oakland… surrounded Chase and shut it down today during this mini general strike.”~Deb, watching the live feed.


    Another stalking and potential death overted. What a f–king farce.

    • ****
      Hell is where many false commitments must be unlearned.
      ~Ricardo J. Quinones aka Dante Alighieri


  11. For those history buffs 1776 was a year far more important to the illuminati than to American Sheeple….

    Fascinating Puddy… i shall have to dip my toe into that pool of knowledge.

    • Adam Weishaupt, Wealth of Nations, Unites States Incorporates and the subject of Shabbetai Zvi 1666 + 110

      The conflict between Jacob Israel Emden (Yavetz c. 1697 –1776) and Jonathan Eibeschutz.

      The Rothschilds belonged to a sect known as the Shabbateans, incepted by the false-messiah, Shabbetai Zevi.

  12. 13th TRIBE

    ABOUT the time when Charlemagne was crowned Emperor of the West, the eastern confinesof Europe between the Caucasus and the Volga were ruled by a Jewish state,known as the Khazar Empire. At the peak of its power, from the seventh to the tenth centuriesAD, it played a significant part in shaping the destinies of mediaeval, and consequentlyof modern, Europe. The Byzantine Emperor and historian, Constantine Porphyrogenitus (913-959), must have been well aware of this when he recorded in his treatise on court protocol.1that letters addressed to the Pope in Rome, and similarly those to the Emperor of the West,had a gold seal worth two solidi attached to them, whereas messages to the King of theKhazars displayed a seal worth three solidi. This was not flattery, but Realpolitik. “In theperiod with which we are concerned,” wrote Bury, “it is probable that the Khan of the Khazarswas of little less importance in view of the imperial foreign policy than Charles the Great andhis successors.”.2The country of the Khazars, a people of Turkish stock, occupied a strategic key position atthe vital gateway between the Black Sea and the Caspian, where the great eastern powers ofthe period confronted each other.

  13. So, which of the “Holy Books” has the representation of the most psychotic ‘god’?

  14. Richard Goldstone’s journey from Justice to Sinner represents the spiritual act of dying in the Zionist world. By recanting his own report he has attempted to break the bonds that cast him into the sufferings in Caina, Antenora, and Judecca where, in Dante’s Inferno, those treacherous to their own, are removed from the light and warmth of their kin, their country, and their masters and suffer eternal damnation in the remorseless dead center of the ice in the most bottomless circle of Hell. Fortunately, Goldstone like Dante can learn that he has, in his journey, aligned himself with many false gods and many false attachments ignoring on the way the elementary truths that bind humankind ineluctably in one race in a bond of human grace.
    The Zionist world needs no Hell since it heeds no conscience. It exists on one foundation, a solid block of ice that freezes the soul of all who bear allegiance to its creed of absolute obedience, an ancient form of tribal slavery bound by fear that shackles the soul, by isolation that instills despair, by humiliation that corrodes self, and by victimhood that bonds the tribe in self-perpetuating agony. It is in this sense Medieval, a remnant of the inquisitorial mind that harbored no dissent, gave no credence to personal freedom, and obligated all to one monolithic understanding of commitment to the powers that control…~William A. Cook , Dissident Voice, 4/21/11

  15. Reza Shah Pahlavi visits
    Mustafa Kemal Atatürk in Turkey

  16. For anyone still up…Occupy Oakland prepares to do battle with police…!/search/occupyoakland?q=occupyoakland

    • ABC cut coverage right before the cops moved in. Switch channels…

    • I understand that the Occupods were successful in closing down the port. This is goooooooooood.

      Now do it to the whole fucking nation and prove that they mean business.

      • “I understand that the Occupods were successful in closing down the port” – AMENDMENT:

        It seems that the port was going to be shut down anyway, and the Occupy Movement had zip to do with it.

        There were containers loaded in Vietnam that had exploded upon opening at some other port…these were attended to as the port was shut down…it was all scheduled beforehand…and this whole thing was THEATER.

        And I am coming to the opinion that that is exactly what this movement is, theater controlled behind the scenes by the same puppet masters controlling everything else.

        Discouraging news must be assessed as to it’s validity, not according to our wishful thinking.

        Sorry kids.

      • Tuesday, Nov. 01, 2011 | 04:19 PM
        OAKLAND, Calif. — Two marine terminals at the Port of Oakland have been shut down over concerns that refrigerated containers serviced in Vietnam may combust after being powered up.
        The Oakland Tribune reports ( that the dockworkers’ union forced the closure of the terminals Monday after it learned of a quarantine of refrigerated containers that had been serviced in Vietnam. One of the two terminals was also closed Tuesday.
        The containers were quarantined after reports of explosions and “incidents of spontaneous combustion” that resulted in at least three fatalities, according to a trade publication, World Cargo News.
        The U.S. Coast Guard on Monday isolated about 13 of the containers in question in Oakland. So far, there have been no injuries at the Port of Oakland. The impacts of the SSA and TraPac terminals closure could be seen in long lines of truck traffic down streets near the port.”

  17. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo has been President of Equatorial Guinea since 1979, and is Chairperson of the African Union.

  18. Emotions being manipulated to anger then war.

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